On 4/21/2010 8:11 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 04/21/2010 01:10 PM, Tejas Guruswamy wrote:
This complaint is a regular visitor to the opensuse lists ... e.g.
[opensuse] An annoying behaviour by latest version of Firefox in openSUSE http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2010-02/msg00633.html
However it is a nebulous beast, and fingers are pointed in all directions with no certainty (see the linked thread, loads of different solutions to try). Some days later the problem often disappears just as mysteriously as it appears (as it did in the above case).
Try using lsof and friends to figure out what files are still open by thunderbird / firefox / whatever. Can't guarantee that it will help solve anything though, based on previous experience.
Regards, Tejas
Tejas,
My bet (in thunderbird's case) is someone at mozilla got the bright idea to continue indexing or compressing messages after shutdown which would explain the continued running processes, but failed to code a hook to tell the index function that when the user clicks on the tbird icon again, tbird was starting again so "quit indexing and open".
I Firefox's case, I can't think of a logical reason unless it's some type of stray sqlite db maintenance that doesn't know when to stop.
In either case, it is having very much -- unwanted -- consequenses.
Hmmm I just saw this thread and have been chasing what may be the same problem but from a different angle... I run ThunderbirdPortable and FirefoxPortable under the PortableApps suite / wine. I run these off a USB portable disk drive and have been troubled by the fact that after closing TBPortable or FFPortable, and PortableApps itself, that I cannot dismount the USB disk drive. It still thinks the drive is in use.. LSOF has revealed that a lot of files are still opened, and ps -aux will sometimes show that a deprecated process for one of these apps is still running. I have even seen the wineserver app itself still running. Killing these processes has lead to file corruption (not surprisingly) and even after doing that, umount or the KDE device manager still will not allow me to dismount the drive. The PortableApps/TBirdPortable/FFPortable folks all pointed their fingers at Wine. The Wine folks are pointing their fingers at the kernel and told me to complain to my distro. I was about to when I saw this thread.. I wonder if we are all chasing the same bug? For me this is kinda serious because trying to dismount my USB drive, (usually by rebooting) has on a couple of occasions still led to file corruption issues. (I must use a FAT32 file system on the USB drive so I can also use it under Windoz.. sigh) Unlike David's post however, this has been going on for quite some time for me and is a real headache. Anyone got any suggestions on how I should proceed? I hate being a middle man in this fray... Marc...