Just in case people are wondering why they had not read David's initial post, and my subsequent response to it, it is because David sent me a private message and I responded to his private message also privately. But he now took both messages into the public forum - so, don't wonder if this mail list's server is having a hernia or if your ISP is not sending all the posts to you :-) . Now read on..... On 13/02/10 17:54, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 02/13/2010 12:16 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
On 13/02/10 16:32, David C. Rankin wrote:
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(And if y'all are still stuck on KDE3 then it is time to move forward
I would have read:
"(And if y'all are still stuck on KDE3 then it is time to install kde4. It install quite fine right along side kde3" :p
And actually, just as kde4 is making good leaps forward, the developers have not ignored kde3 (at least those developers that maintain kde3 for openSuSE). Since the release of 11.2, the kde3 packages have received an incredible clean up and is in really good shape. So a double thanks to the KDE devs.
Initially I had great sympathy with people for wanting to keep KDE3 going because of the features it had and the ease with which they could be accessed, configured and used.
But what I now feel is that the insistence to keep KDE3 going is a waste of resources. The time would be better spent on people putting their effort into improving KDE4.
I agree, but while kde4 is still undergoing such intense development, you need a fallback for those times when kde4 may have an unintended feature pop up.
Case-in-point. I'm using 4.4, but I am experiencing random application crashes in both kde and non-kde apps. Which while I'm dinking around like I am tonight, I don't really care if an app crashes, I'll just go file the bug report.
However, if I am in a mission critical situation, ( e.g. at 3:00 on the day that a response to a motion for summary judgment is due by 5:00 ) There is no way I would risk the probable loss of even 10 minutes of production time or the break in concentration on an app crash and process clean up, not even mentioning the risk of file corruption resulting from the crash )
When I need an desktop that I know I can trust to get me through filing or whatever I am doing, I will be more than happy to fire of kde3 and oo to get the job done. In those instances where zero-fail is a requirement, kde4 doesn't measure up yet.
But David, if you have such mission-critical situations then you should not have the same computer running both versions of KDE. One computer with stable version of openSUSE and KDE and a separate computer which is a test bed for playing around with oS Millstones and KDE experimentals. But then, this is what I do (and have)..... [pruned]
Oh well, all I can say is I like them both and I WHOLE-HEARTEDLY agree with you, you have never seen bling like you see in KDE4. It's just damn gorgeous!
:-D But "bling" is only skin deep. Nevertheless, "bling" is most important to some people :-) . (I don't know if you remember this, but some years ago I posted a story which I, as a Sysop of a BBS, read and which was related by another Sysop re what students doing a computer studies course did as a project at one of the American colleges. All to do with "bling" :-) .) BC -- "If it weren't for electricity we'd be all watching televion by candlelight." George Gobel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org