Sorin Peste wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Per Jessen
wrote: are you claiming that a) as an user who needs ssh on a desktop installation and performs <10 installs each year, you feel that you are representative / part of a majority of openSUSE users and therefore the default should be geared towards your type of user,
No. (I really don't see that I have said/written anything that could be remotely construed in that way.)
the "openSUSE is moving away from my user profile" bit made me believe that.
Okay, that's a good point - yes, with needless changes such as the one we are discussing, I do detect a move _away_ from what I need. However, elsewhere I see a move _towards_ functionality that I need. Hence my suggestion that openSUSE might be suffering from a slowly growing schizophrenia. I am just a family member calling it by its name.
or that b) Joe User IS the majority but there are no solid arguments against having sshd enabled on his box, and therefore should be left on.
That is what I am arguing, yes. It has been so far, why change it when it brings no benefits?
Sorin, apologies for snipping the bit about minority users, but it was utterly irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant, as you are advocating keeping it in to be used by a minority of users
I am not advocating sshd for any minority users, other people are bringing that up. I am merely advocating no change when it brings no benefit, like I did 18 months ago. If it ain't broke ...
Anyway, it's standard security doctrine to not run things by default that are not needed in a majority of cases, firewalls can be and are disabled sometimes by people, for example to test stuff when they forget to switch it back on (I've been guilty of this one myself). It's likely that the type of user who needs sshd WAS "the majority" back in the day,
Actually, I don't think that anyone has argued that the _user_ needs sshd. I am arguing that _I_ as an admin need sshd - the _user_ couldn't care less, regardless of who his admin is. Which is why we should just leave it running. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (8.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org