i have a dell vostro laptop, with a broadcom wireless. the card *was* recognized by 64 bit suse 11.1 and was somewhat successful with wireless connections, sometimes with ifup, sometimes with (k)networkmanager. the situation improved a little when i tried ndiswrapper, it all went to pot when i tried the "latest" one click driver installs. then i tried something different: 1. removed everything related to bcm43 in yast., *especially* fwcutter. 2. removed *everything* relating to bcm43 in yast that the one click installs put in. 3. took the bcmwl5 shtuff from the much reduced stock dell partition that still houses the officially required winblows xp for warrantee purposes, copied it of to my /home/me partition. 4. asked ndiswrapper to first remove anything bcmwl, then asked ndiswrapper to install bcmwl5. 5. did a "modprobe ndiswrapper" 6. added "ndiswrapper" as the driver in the yast net config window, hardware pane, i also had already killed networkmanager and knetworkmanager and switched to ifup. 7.googled and dl'd wicd, the 64 bit version as an rpm. started the daemon and gui. 8. I am now enjoying wireless connections *without* failures and without suffering thru a dozen or two of unsuccessful connect attempts:) with ifup and wicd, i connect *every* time, on the *first* try... ok, i only tried it in 3 places, however, what used to be a half hour cussing session now only takes a ferw seconds, *every* time:) the wicd icon is exactly where the knetworkmanager icon is placed, and it does *not* require a network setup thru yast that ifup would normally need (but ifup must be selected ), it behaves almost like knetworkmanager, except that it *always* works.... Now the downside: Yes, wicd does have the problem that the password is kept in plain text and it can get picked up by anyone clicking on the wicd icon and cruising within the gui. but wicd & ifup together work just fine for wirelles connections, so i will risk the plain text issue and hopefully it will get fixed while everything else works:) isn't linucs wonderful? no matter what, there is always one more way to get you where you are going:) d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org