peter nikolic wrote:
On Sunday 12 April 2009, jdd wrote:
I just notice that there will be nomore kde3 for the upcomming openSUSE 11.2.
I don't want to grin. Not necessary.
I just wanted to ask here what do you have in kde3.5 and don't find in kde4 and you would like to have. Not to say you will have it but to give info to devs...
I stopped using kde4 on 11.1 for problems in the config panel and lack of understanding of the new windows layout. I expect this to be solved before next release;
what do you think? be constructive :-)
jdd NB: I miss the kweather applet, but it don't work neither in kde 3.5 :-( -- http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.org http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-eic8MSSfM http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1412160445
A Fully working Quanta for one not Quanta for KDE 3.5.x that is half dead because things are not there cus it needs KDE 3.5.x that is the one that directly affects me .
KDE3 should not be dropped until the KDE4 devs can show we are NOT sacrificing functionality. I can't wait for KDE4 to be finished, it should be great. But to consider KDE4 a replacement for KDE3 at present is intellectually dishonest. Quanta is Case-In-Point, a MAJOR app and arguably the best at what it does. I was using it not more than 30 seconds before checking email and finding this very depressing thread. You can't even upload the files you are working on to your server in the KDE4 version with fish. In KDE3 it is as simple as hitting F8. Presently, for quanta and for other major areas of functionality, KDE4 is a bust, it's not there yet, and there is NO way Novell, openSuSE, or God for that matter, can expect KDE4 to mature sufficiently between now and the 11.2 release to be a workable replacement. I just shake my head at the derisory decision making taking place and the newfound *urgent* need to dump kde3. We were initially told that KDE3 would be part of 11.2, now this? (Note the *loud absence* within Novell of anyone willing to take "credit" for making this important decision) I mean just keep telling people kde4 will be ready by 11.2 enough times, and you can calculate 90% or so will be stupid enough to believe it. How many time did it take hearing "Sadam has weapons of mass destruction, wmds, and we know where they are", before you bought in? Hopefully, Novell is privy to some hidden information (intelligence if you will) that guarantees the KDE4 glamor toy we now have will be ready by 11.2 -- I doubt it. This dice-roll decision making within Novell concerning functionality for what was once the hands down, most functional distribution with the greatest attention to detail... is disturbing to say the least -- or downright alarming to be honest and candid about it. The management question still lingers. Would novell ever put out a release of its openSuSE distribution that cannot do what its last prior release did with the addendum of "uhh, we know its broken and doesn't quite have the functionality the last version did, but we take such pride in saying we are the best, we just decided to release it anyway...without a working KDE3.5 this time..." ???WTF??? That is the type of corporate thinking and corporate decision making that brought us credit default swaps and we see how good that turned out. Hopefully 12.0 will be a solid release with a working version of Quanta in a mature KDE4. Sad, I used to alway look forward to the new capabilities in the upcoming release. Now, I get to look forward to loss of capabilities in the upcoming release?? My, "the times, they are a changing." (catchy phrase, probably make a good song) OK, now just chime in with how we are "just in the same type of transition we were in with the KDE2-KDE3 transition" and "not to worry", but please be kind enough to provide citation to the references you use to show that lack of comparative functionality was still being debated *three* releases down the KDE3 road. (still just shaking my head in utter disbelief, with a dry chuckle of solemnity...) Beware the ives of Mandrake... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org