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Re: [opensuse] openSuSE mirror network - Close to UNUSABLE - What's up?
  • From: Peter Poeml <poeml@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:55:16 +0100
  • Message-id: <20090127175516.GV1579@xxxxxxx>
Hi David,

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:08:29AM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,

Prior to six months ago, if a package update or install threw an error
because
of a mirror time-out or other malady with the mirror system, it was a rare
once-a-year occurrence. Lately, I can't even do a simple update without the
mirror system blowing up 20 times. Something has got to get fixed. What was a
bullet-proof SuSE system of package installs and updates has become so
undependable you literally have to baby-sit each and every update.

coincidentally, earlier today I replied to an older mail from you, which
you may not have seen yet ("Re: What's up with the mirrors?") where I
pointed out exactly what to do:

Report the problem!

Write to admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx (you will reach me there), or open a bugzilla
ticket.
If you chose the latter path, using the bugzilla product "openSUSE.org",
component "Download infrastructure" will ensure that the issue directly
comes to my attention.

That's ridiculous. That's unacceptable.

I'm fully with you. I fully agree that the situation is what it is, and
the download client is so fragile. It wouldn't be necessary. We all can
be happy when two proposals of mine will finally be implemented:

https://features.opensuse.org/305320 Show accessed mirror(s)
https://features.opensuse.org/302923 handle redirection to mirrors robustly

Until then, there is no way around improvising (and suffering) in
dealing with these recurring problems.

(Please vote for those features.)

((If you are on 11.1, you can already test a prototype, which is described
here: http://en.opensuse.org/Libzypp/Failover
It is supposed to fix *all* those plaguing issues.))

I used to kick-off remote updates with ssh host.domain.com 'sudo zypper
up -t
package' without hesitation, now it looks like the system has gone back to
beta
status. What is up with the mirror system? If I set up automatic updates in
yast to run ... 'automatically'..., I end up with logs full of errors. That
never used to happen.

Is there something that can be done to fix this? Moreover, is this
something
that can be reported to bugzilla? Or, is this just something else that would
receive the seemingly obligatory 'CLOSED INVA' response from Novell?

No matter how you look at it something has gone dramatically downhill
in the
past 6 months to a year that we need to elevate to the proper people so it can
get fixed. Christian, Stefan other opensuse guys, what is the proper direction
to approach this one? Who is responsible for making sure the mirror system
works in a reliable way?

I am responsible to make it work in a reliable way. And I will happily
help you (and I can virtually promise that I can).
Nevertheless, you are responsible to let me know when you encounter
problems, so that I can help you. Which I hope is reasonable.


Information that I'll need is the country you are located in, possibly
your IP address and the date/time of failing download, possibly certain
file that the failure was encountered with.

If you fell confident to do so, you can enable zypp debug log and it'll
will reveal the failing mirror right away. It is done like this:
$ ZYPP_MEDIA_CURL_DEBUG=1 zypper whatever

The most recent time-out calamity follows the signature. It is an
update I
started 7 hours ago that I am still trying to finish. For single repos, I can
see just choosing a mirror and adding that as a source if, for example, the
update mirrors are having problems, but I shouldn't have to do that for every
repository just to be able to perform update. Let me know who to contact or
where to file this so it will get the attention it needs. Thanks.


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Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
Telephone: (936) 715-9333
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[04:26 ecstasy:/home/david/tmp] # zypper up -t package
Reading installed packages...

The following packages are going to be upgraded:
kipi-plugins digikamimageplugins kdiff3 gwenview digikam libkcal2
kitchensync
kdewebdev3 kdesdk3-translate kdesdk3-kdecvs kdesdk3 kdepim3-time-management
kdepim3-notes kdepim3-kpilot kdepim3 kdenetwork3-news kdenetwork3-IRC
kdenetwork3
kdemultimedia3-video-xine kdemultimedia3-video kdemultimedia3-sound
kdemultimedia3-mixer kdemultimedia3-midi kdemultimedia3-jukebox
kdemultimedia3-extra kdemultimedia3-arts kdemultimedia3-CD kdemultimedia3
kdelibs3-doc kdelibs3-devel kdelibs3-arts kdegraphics3-tex kdegraphics3-scan
kdegraphics3-postscript kdegraphics3-pdf kdegraphics3-kamera
kdegraphics3-imaging
kdegraphics3-fax kdegraphics3-extra kdegames3-board kdegames3
kdebindings3-ruby
kdebindings3-javascript-devel kdebindings3-javascript kdebindings3
kdegraphics3
kdebindings3-java kdeartwork3-xscreensaver kdeartwork3-kscreensaver kdeadmin3
kdeaddons3-sound kdeaddons3-konqueror kdeaddons3-kicker kdeaddons3-kate
kdeaddons3-games kdeaccessibility3 kdebase3-runtime kdebase3-devel kdebase3
kdelibs3-devel-doc libqt4-x11 libqt4-jambi libqt4-devel libQtWebKit4
libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-qt3support ant-javamail


The following NEW package is going to be installed:
kipi-plugins-lang


The following package is going to change vendor:
ant-javamail


Overall download size: 134.1 M. After the operation, additional 11.4 M will be
used.
Continue? [YES/no]: yes
Downloading package gwenview-1.4.2-121.2.x86_64 (1/68), 560.0 K (2.0 M
unpacked)
Downloading: gwenview-1.4.2-121.2.x86_64.rpm [done (97.2 K/s)]
Installing: gwenview-1.4.2-121.2 [done]
Downloading package digikam-0.9.4-54.2.x86_64 (2/68), 6.4 M (27.9 M unpacked)
Downloading: digikam-0.9.4-54.2.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/digikam-0.9.4-54.2.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: digikam-0.9.4-54.2.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/digikam-0.9.4-54.2.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: digikam-0.9.4-54.2.x86_64.rpm [done (133.5 K/s)]
Installing: digikam-0.9.4-54.2 [done]
Downloading package libkcal2-3.5.10-19.5.x86_64 (3/68), 391.0 K (1.4 M
unpacked)
Downloading: libkcal2-3.5.10-19.5.x86_64.rpm [done (97.5 K/s)]
Installing: libkcal2-3.5.10-19.5 [done]
Downloading package kdewebdev3-3.5.10-15.30.x86_64 (4/68), 1.6 M (4.3 M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdewebdev3-3.5.10-15.30.x86_64.rpm [done (119.0 K/s)]
Installing: kdewebdev3-3.5.10-15.30 [done]
Downloading package kdesdk3-translate-3.5.10-2.33.x86_64 (5/68), 1.6 M (5.6 M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdesdk3-translate-3.5.10-2.33.x86_64.rpm [done (126.2 K/s)]
Installing: kdesdk3-translate-3.5.10-2.33 [done]
Downloading package kdesdk3-3.5.10-2.33.x86_64 (6/68), 3.4 M (10.1 M unpacked)
Downloading: kdesdk3-3.5.10-2.33.x86_64.rpm [done (127.8 K/s)]
Installing: kdesdk3-3.5.10-2.33 [done]
Downloading package kdenetwork3-news-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64 (7/68), 234.0 K (998.0
K unpacked)
Downloading: kdenetwork3-news-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64.rpm [done (60.7 K/s)]
Installing: kdenetwork3-news-3.5.10-15.6 [done]
Downloading package kdenetwork3-IRC-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64 (8/68), 605.0 K (2.0 M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdenetwork3-IRC-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/kdenetwork3-IRC-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: kdenetwork3-IRC-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64.rpm [done (114.7 K/s)]
Installing: kdenetwork3-IRC-3.5.10-15.6 [done]
Downloading package kdenetwork3-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64 (9/68), 1.2 M (4.0 M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdenetwork3-3.5.10-15.6.x86_64.rpm [done (115.9 K/s)]
Installing: kdenetwork3-3.5.10-15.6 [done]
Downloading package kdemultimedia3-video-xine-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64 (10/68), 71.0
K (531.0 K unpacked)
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-video-xine-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/kdemultimedia3-video-xine-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-video-xine-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [done]
Installing: kdemultimedia3-video-xine-3.5.10-5.26 [done]
Downloading package kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64 (11/68), 1.2 M
(10.5 M unpacked)
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [done (122.1 K/s)]
Installing: kdemultimedia3-sound-3.5.10-5.26 [done]
Downloading package kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64 (12/68), 319.0 K
(1.1 M unpacked)
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [done (87.1 K/s)]
Installing: kdemultimedia3-mixer-3.5.10-5.26 [done]
Downloading package kdemultimedia3-midi-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64 (13/68), 199.0 K
(635.0 K unpacked)
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-midi-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [done (45.8 K/s)]
Installing: kdemultimedia3-midi-3.5.10-5.26 [done]
Downloading package kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64 (14/68), 1.1 M (2.2 M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [done (112.8 K/s)]
Installing: kdemultimedia3-CD-3.5.10-5.26 [done]
Downloading package kdemultimedia3-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64 (15/68), 229.0 K (634.0
K
unpacked)
Downloading: kdemultimedia3-3.5.10-5.26.x86_64.rpm [done (74.9 K/s)]
Installing: kdemultimedia3-3.5.10-5.26 [done]
Downloading package kdelibs3-doc-3.5.10-33.3.x86_64 (16/68), 842.0 K (5.7 M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdelibs3-doc-3.5.10-33.3.x86_64.rpm [done (119.3 K/s)]
Installing: kdelibs3-doc-3.5.10-33.3 [done]
Downloading package kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-33.3.x86_64 (17/68), 114.0 K (568.0 K
unpacked)
Downloading: kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-33.3.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-33.3.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]: r
Downloading: kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-33.3.x86_64.rpm [done (40.2 K/s)]
Installing: kdelibs3-arts-3.5.10-33.3 [done]
Downloading package kdegraphics3-scan-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64 (18/68), 824.0 K (1.5
M unpacked)
Downloading: kdegraphics3-scan-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm [done (112.3 K/s)]
Installing: kdegraphics3-scan-3.5.10-2.36 [done]
Downloading package kdegraphics3-postscript-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64 (19/68), 195.0
K
(635.0 K unpacked)
Downloading: kdegraphics3-postscript-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm [done (57.0 K/s)]
Installing: kdegraphics3-postscript-3.5.10-2.36 [done]
Downloading package kdegraphics3-pdf-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64 (20/68), 711.0 K (2.4
M
unpacked)
Downloading: kdegraphics3-pdf-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm [done (111.2 K/s)]
Installing: kdegraphics3-pdf-3.5.10-2.36 [done]
Downloading package kdegraphics3-kamera-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64 (21/68), 69.0 K
(211.0 K unpacked)
Downloading: kdegraphics3-kamera-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm [done]
Installing: kdegraphics3-kamera-3.5.10-2.36 [done]
Downloading package kdegraphics3-imaging-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64 (22/68), 1.8 M
(4.0
M unpacked)
Downloading: kdegraphics3-imaging-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm [done (124.2 K/s)]
Installing: kdegraphics3-imaging-3.5.10-2.36 [done]
Downloading package kdegraphics3-extra-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64 (23/68), 117.0 K
(363.0 K unpacked)
Downloading: kdegraphics3-extra-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm [error]
Download (curl) error for
'http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_11.0/x86_64/kdegraphics3-extra-3.5.10-2.36.x86_64.rpm':
Error code: User abort
Error message: Connection time-out

Abort, retry, ignore? [A/r/i]:

AARRGGHHHH! #$$%&*ERGSF&#$%^&

Don't despair :-) Please help to find the broken mirror.
For the benefit of your own sanity, and for the benefit of thousands of
affected other users.

So please provide the information I mentioned above, and we'll solve it.

Thanks,
Peter
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