On Wednesday 10 December 2008 06:57:15 pm Rajko M. wrote:
On Wednesday 10 December 2008 04:40:42 am G T Smith wrote:
Generally something that works (such as the basic concept of different applications running in "windows" on a desktop) tend to hang around until it no longer works well, or some new invention arrives that allows a different approach.
I've not seen much of either.
I think the underlying problem is in many contexts and for many (non-IT) people it does not really work that well, it is something many are familiar with but more as a known barrier than a real aid. It is less of a barrier than the command line but still a barrier nonetheless. The difficulty is that many at the technical end do not really see this as an issue with the technology more an issue with the people using the technology. Maybe the cart is being put in front of the horse here, and we should be looking at presentation mechanisms that people are more comfortable with?
Maybe this can give some ideas on new options in human interface design:
http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/RecommendedReading
-- Regards, Rajko
for months and months i ate up the hype about kde4, first 4.0, then 4.1,then 4.2, then ..... not being of guru grade, i waited for a "real release" like suse 11.0 to checkout the great new kde4. in less than 1/2 hour my test intall was removed by me and the space was given back to backups of the wife's pictures gallery. a side effect was that I stayed with suse 10.3. Yes, i know that i could use kde3 in 11.0, tried that before removing 11.0, but it was clear that even though 11.0 can run with kde3, it still needed kde4 in the background!!! was this something like the internet explorer being an integral part of windoze, thus it is indispensible? gosh, one more reason to stay away from #4(: Since then I occasionally check out threads about kde4, hoping for a breakthru. What constantly appears is two fighting camps, at varying levels of interaction: there are threads with pure ego clashes, threads with detailed technical punches and counter punches, threads with philosophical attempts at karma searching, threads with threads of logic, threads with threads of illogic... and no one seems to be learning from the other... and no one is budging... and more and more stuff gets microsofted down to kde 4.3, 4.4 and even the killer of all killers, ....kde 5.0... little me and i am sure thousands or millions like me are sitting on the sidelines, watching. and staying away from kde4, many like me even stay away from suse 11 and beyond. and we wonder: is anybody up there (or down there:)) at kde headquarters staying up late at nights, wondering how to woo the thousands or millions like me back after the kde 4 debaucle? yes you lost us, and yes, you have got to admit it was a debaucle, lick your wounds and move on! is anybody up there (or down there) at suse headquarters staying up late at nights, wondering how to get the thousands or millions like me back after the unequivocal linkup of new suse os's to kde4? yes, you lost us and yes, you have got to see some serious problems there, many link them to the novel-ms "agreements" and "understandings", i only ask you to please count the number of times the name "vista" appears in suse-land after you sealed kde4 into default /integral component status in 11.x... soooo, what are kde and suse going to do for the new year and for the little people? dimitris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org