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Re: [opensuse] WiFi scanning in Knetworkmanager not that great
  • From: James Knott <james.knott@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:06:01 -0400
  • Message-id: <48739E79.8070801@xxxxxxxxxx>
Helmut Schaa wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 18:23:11 schrieb Ted Markowitz:
Mike McMullin said the following on 07/03/2008 12:08 PM:
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:05 +0000, JP Rosevear wrote:
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 16:50 -0400, James Knott wrote:
I've noticed that the scanning in Knetworkmanager in OpenSUSE 11.0
doesn't work very well. Right now, as I sit at my desk, it only shows
4 networks and doesn't even show mine. On the other hand, my N800
shows 8 networks, including mine. I think this part should go back to
the way it worked in 10.3, as that worked well.
You need to run iwlist for comparison to see if its NetworkManager or
the driver messing up.
I've been following this thread, and I get one network showing in
KNetWorkManager (11.0 on KDE3.5), my own, but iwlist shows the normal
five (4 other plus my own).
My experience with the new KNetworkManager in 11.0 has been up and down
as well. No nearby hotspots appear by default when the applet is clicked
on initially. However, if you do "New connection..." > "wlan0", then
they in fact are all there, but they then need to be configured
manually. Apparently to have them appear as they did in the prior
version (that is the signal strength monitor for each wlan0 connection
is shown when you click on the applet in the panel) you need to actually
configure a new wlan0 connection in KNetworkManager for each of the ones
you want to have shown. Then it looks and works more-or-less like it
used to. Also, the connection information (IP address, broadcast
address, bytes transferred, etc.) seems to have disappeared; at least I
can't see any command in the applet to show it. I've tried
right-clicking on it, but that doesn't seem to make any difference and
there's no extra info when you hover over the applet either. That was
very useful information to have to show how your network was actually
configured. Not that you can't see it all with ifconfig or iwlist I
suppose, but still...

Please refer to [1] if you want to know why we decided to not show all available networks in the context menu.

Not sure why the interface was changed. Personally I found the old one
more intuitive and useful, but who am I to stand in the way of progress?




I have read that link and still think it's broken. Right now, I'm in my office and connected to our WiFi. I know there are 9 or 10 other access points in this building, but I can't see any other than ours in that "New Connection". If I wanted to change to another connection, how can I do it, if I don't know the name? As to having 20 access points available, in Windows, you can scroll through the list. Why can't that be done here. I can see what's available, by using iwlist (which also requires using grep ESSID to get a plain list), but why can't knetworkmanager do it? That is a fundamental function that is missing. It should show *ALL* available networks, when you want to see them. It should not be necessary to go to a command line and run iwlist, which is impossible for someone to do, if they don't have root priviledges to run it.

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