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From: "Larry Stotler"
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Brian K. White
wrote: A 1x cdrom is only 150K !! A 12x is only about 14Mbit You have a machine old enough to have only a cd and yet it's somehow a new 52x? Ok, a 52x cd is still only about 62Mbit
And USB v1.x is 12Mbit.
What's next? You somehow have a blazing fast cd drive but only a 10mbit nic? Further, thousands of others have the same inexplicably retarded config such that suse or anyone else should care about spending effort to support it?
Thanx for crapping on my Machines. Some of us actually do use older machines are are very productive on them for what we do. What happened to the: You don't need a superfast computer for Linux? Now we expect everyone to be a Vista capable machine and use Linux? Well, at that point, they'll just use Vista.
Some of us are having a hard time money wise. The economy isn't great in a lot of places. If its food for my kids vs upgrades, I wonder which is more important.
And some people don't even have a computer. So? So you have a computer that no longer meets the requirements of current OS's big whup. So install 10.3 You are avoiding upgrading your hardware, so what's so unreasonable about expecting you to avoid upgrading your software? Complaining you can't run FF3 on opensuse 8.1 is just inventing problems to complain about. (I don't think that was you but it was raised in this thread and servs as an example) It's not just old machines. I recently paid almost $3k for a great little sub-note, the very latest of everything (Vaio TZ series), that couldn't install the very latest freebsd, or any freebsd, using the stock hardware (which includes a cd/dvd-dl+-rw). In that case it was because the built in dvd is really connected via usb internally, not ide or sata and the freebsd boot loader chokes on it. If a lot of freebsd users had a new Vaio TZ then freebsd would surely get it working. But there apparently aren't so I don't expect them to cater to my odd needs. Their time is better spent elsewhere on things that matter. Even _I_ who had the problem benefit more from them working on the kernel than working on making it effortless for me to install on my new notebook. Instead I figured out some other way to get it installed. If I had failed I was prepared to live without or live with running freebsd inside qemu if I couldn't get it. There are no cd's for 11.0 get over it. Install 10.3 or put out the teeny amount of effort to use some other way. A few have been suggested that would work even without any usb ports. Some aren't even more work. I have machines that can't install opensuse 11.0 either. I don't consider it suse's fault or even a problem in the first place. -- Brian K. White brian@aljex.com http://www.myspace.com/KEYofR +++++[>+++[>+++++>+++++++<<-]<-]>>+.>.+++++.+++++++.-.[>+<---]>++. filePro BBx Linux SCO FreeBSD #callahans Satriani Filk! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org