On Wednesday 14 May 2008 09:37:48 John Andersen wrote:
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:23 AM, David C. Rankin
wrote: For those that have experienced a distro implosion by a dramatic decrease in quality, the warning bells are ringing.
You mean like people bitching about it BEFORE its released instead of after?
A host of little issues are still up in the air like, Will the release have a working desktop?,
Why wouldn't it? Nobody is forcing any specific desktop on any given release.
I don't think anyone is trolling for a fight and I think we all share a commitment to see 11.0 be a successful release that won't adversely affect either the SuSE or Novell names.
You have to understand that Opensuse is simply a test bed for SLED/SLES.
Once you figure that out, you can update on YOUR schedule, not the release date. Some of us have better things to do than test platforms. I try when I can, in a virtual machine, but I never rush to anything-dot-zero and I don't see me rushing to 11.0 either.
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As some may have noted I had a lot of problems. I had no intention of updating from 10.1 until 11.1 came out but motherboard broke and there doesn't seem to be any 10.1 repositories about any more or there's no longer any updates. I was rather surprised when I had these problems with 10.3. I didn't have any with 10.1. Like many people I liked suse because it was stable. I want to use my machine. I'm not to keen on updating often. My way of supporting suse prior to 10.3 was to buy the dvd knowing that once I asked for support and described my machine I wouldn't get it. However as the box is now called open suse I thought well I may as well download it. Releases now seem to come out much more rapidly. Ok for developing bug free software maybe but not in line with suse's traditional market niche. That one provided real updates from time to time. Ok one kernel update wiped out cd support but at least they rolled it back or fix the problem. I suspect that the majority of suse users have the same attitude as me. They want to run a linux desktop all of the time. I have since 9.3 boxed release. Windoze is there because I have it. While Novell might want something different they should bare in mind that many people who want something else will run Debian and that even Ubuntu tries to offer a stable release. If suse forces debian unstable like behaviour or anything like it on users that don't want it they are not going to be successful. The user base will shrink making the problems even worse. Signs are that it is shrinking already. Bash hackers and server owners may feel differently but some how I don't think so. John -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org