On Friday 09 May 2008 16:47:44 Stefan Hundhammer wrote:
On Friday 09 May 2008 16:56, peter nikolic wrote:
There seems to be a lot of people these days that seem only capable of giving very useless one or two line sarcasms instead of constructive answers and suggestions , Maybe it is time some staff at suse were cycled to somewhere that sarcasm is appreaciated instead of somewhere where helpfull suggestions and answers are to be expected .
Ah, what a warm feeling of helpfulness for the original poster I can sense in such a reply...
Please elaborate in what way your answer helps the OP to get his problem fixed. I don't seem do understand it.
We'd all like to have a completely bug-free Linux distribution that will not fail on any possible combination of hardware and installation scenarios. But obviously, we will only get near this ultimate goal when people cooperate.
And we have tools and procedures for that. For bugs, our tool is Bugzilla. This helps to organize things in a way so efficient work on those issues is possible. It keeps the status of issues, there is a well-defined way to relegate them to whatever maintainer is responsible, and they are documented for the future.
Do you think the same goal can reasonably be achieved by posting failure stories (intermixing facts, fiction and feelings at the same time) to a mailing list?
Try it. Not once (that's easy), but providing a sustained level of support. Then let's discuss how successful this approach was after a while.
CU -- Stefan Hundhammer
Penguin by conviction. YaST2 Development SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Nürnberg, Germany
If you feel that posting this as a bug will help I will do that but I don't think it is a bug as such. Also I should point out that what I have stated is fact. There isn't any fiction there at all. Try a google of "grub error suse". Something really aught to have been done about it. This mailing list is for technical aspects - again sorry if it sounds like a rant. On the comment about warm feelings I expect the author is well aware that many other people have had similar experiences - and thoughts too. Actually I have no intention of updating again - I need a rest and will at some point sort out the grub install myself. I would hope that my next update will go more smoothly. I have 2 hardware raids on my machine, one uses a redundant array. The installer had no problem at all with those or the sound,video much usb and other things on a fairly high end 64bit PCI X board - it's just sad that it was incapable of getting the on board sata stuff correct especially as that was a bit crucial in this case. My machine layout may seem a bit strange but the throughput seems to excellent and why should I throw the sata discs away. More basic machines with 2 drives running windoze are very likely to be using the sata that way in any case. John (also a Penguin by conviction - despite the problems) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org