On Friday 09 May 2008 15.01:48, Stefan Hundhammer wrote:
On Friday 09 May 2008 13:24, John wrote:
I have had several really bad days getting this machine up and running. Rough history is as follows. Any comments?
Yes. Rants won't get anybody anywhere. If you are interested in getting problems fixed, writing bug reports is a much better approach.
Somehow you are right. On the other hand it is really *not* easy to get a computer running with openSUSE. I am with Suse since 8.x (with tries since 7.x), so not really unexperienced - and (i guess & hope) not the most stupid user. I know quite a lot about programming (started with COBOL decades ago, do a lot of SQL and php stuff...), but installing openSUSE sometimes really meets my limits. Whatever I try to install, I have to search google, forums, mailing lists... for hours and hours. Can you have a hauppauge Win-TV-card running and a webcam too? No. It took me days to find out. Can you have a firewall running and have a WLAN connection to the internet? I don't know yet. Why does YAST always set my WLAN card to locked, when I tell it to set it to external zone? No idea. I'm asking in a forum right now... I am *really* missing useful helper texts in Yast, up-to-date information (that is working step by step!) on the openSUSE.org site, I would extremely appreciate if the infos on german and english openSUSE pages would tell me the same... And I absolutely don't wonder why people stay with Windows or Mac. Linux is still just too complicated for people who have other hobbies than tinkering with computers. *If* openSUSE once is up and running it's great, but not every one can invest weeks on testing, searching, frustration. And if you finally have your system installed, there's a new version out, everything is different again and nobody is interested anymore in supporting those stoneage people with the last or even pre-last version. Writing bug reports is another story. If you are not very savy in setting up PCs you never know if its a bug or if it's you. It takes a very long time until I decide to write a bug report, because I don't want to steal the time of those who have to read it, if in the end it was my fault... So besides of the great programming jobs openSUSE and Linux-people do, I think it would be really important to make installing *much* easier and comfortable. kind regards Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Switzerland professional photography: http://www.daniel-bauer.com erotic art photos: http://www.bauer-nudes.com/en/linux.html Madagascar special: http://www.fotograf-basel.ch/madagascar/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org