I also think that having openSUSE LTS will be very good for a community to have, but the point is - I'm not sure if there is enough volunteers to make it possible. Do not expect any help from Novell, because having openSUSE LTS may hurt SLE(S/D) business. Most chances, are, that Novell will disallow to use SUSE brand for such community project. Alternatively, SLE may stay for corporations, while openSUSE LTS will have the same role within the openSUSE community as CentOS serves in RedHat community. That is: Community OS, with long-support cycle for personal use/small companies, while RHEL is for large enterprises. Similar market segmentation might work for openSUSE as well. But CentOS is tied very closely with RHEL, not with Fedora, so patches are made by RedHat, not by CentOS developers. CentOS is, in fact, a bug-for-bug copy of RHEL.Will openSUSE LTS be tied closely to SLE or to openSUSE ? A major problem with the so-called "Enterprise" Linuxes, is that they have *very* few packages, so it is a big pain to use for power users, who use a lot of _different_ packages. Perhaps, going back to "RedHat Linux" days may solve this problem, where 1 OS is for both Enterprise+Community. (It was in year 2003, before RedHat Linux devision into RedHat Enterprise Linux and Fedora). Such releases should have LTS badge on them, rather than a full devision. Actually, Ubuntu got it right, because their "LTS" releases can be considered to have "Enterprise" support, if need arises, plus Ubuntu LTS do not suffer from having few packages as RHEL/SLE do. In Any case, I would support such community action - making openSUSE LTS possible ! -- -Alexey Eremenko "Technologov", 13.01.2008. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org