To all... I've kept silent for the most part but watched the posts on this subject and I'd like to state my two cents here. (as a newbie) Some points to remember: 1) Though this is a publicly accessed forum, it is NOT a publicly-owned forum. As such, the rules, as stated at the Netiquette page should be followed, whether we disagree or not. Harping all we want isn't going to get anywhere. 2) It is clear that the subject of topposting versus bottomposting is not a new subject here and those who have been members of this list are probably tired of hearing this debate over and over. It does interfere with the normal flow of discussions pertaining to the focus of the list itself. Those of us who are new here must respect that these issues have been discussed many times in the past before we got here. A consensus was agreed upon and everyone moved on. If we newbies want a change, wait a while until we gain some stature within the list and then propose a change. Jumping in and then trying to force the issue is tacky. 3) Note that I said "propose a change." Not demand it. Not flout the existing rules. Saying "I think top posting is just fine, do whatever you want" is rude and disrespectful to a group that has worked hard to carefully develop rules of Netiquette. 4) Ok now I have to turn my sights on the oldies here. :-) While mistakes are clearly being made by us newbies, please do bear in mind that in fact they ARE newbies. The angry tone and threats to filter out does no good to the spirit of the forum itself. Give people a chance to adjust. Saying "I do not even answer topposters"... what did that gain? All it does is create two camps in the same list and in essence two sub "invisible" lists where one is filtered and the other isn't. While we need to follow the rules of the road here, and I believe most newbies do their best to, let's remember that Novell set up OpenSuse as a way for the world to participate in the development of Suse. I suspect this issue may get re-raised quite a bit over the next few weeks as 10.3 was just released. 10.3 has gotten alot of press and there are many first time users who are motivated to get involved and communicate. As a consequence, there will likely be a new influx of newbies over the next few weeks and I hope you have patience as OpenSuse community goes through its current growth spurt. Done stating my piece and I will try my best to avoid discussing this topic anymore. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org