I have tried everything. Just through sheer bloody mindedness I have done some clean installs and performed all the variations. Nothing works. If I perform the NVIDIA repository update whilst in X (using a working nv driver) then immediately after (that staying in that x session) sax2 works i.e. finds the 3d nvidia driver and the test is successful - I then save the config. Next time I try to start X it crashes. Also from that point running "sax2 -r" stand alone causes the same crash. I am guessing it is a library linking/symbolic link problem but what do I know. I am guessing that because there are a set of circumstances when sax2 does work (but only after a repository update.) All I know I went to the effort to try it in 10.3 RC1 and it worked. I then made the commitment to 10.3. Thanks for the suggestions so far. Pieter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org