I have to say that I'm getting pretty upset and disapointed with some of the inconsistencies of OSL 10.2...especially with the XGL and ZEN update service. We have 4 systems with OSL 10.2. All four use the Intel 865 chipset and P4 processor. One of the systems has an Nvidia AGP card the rest use Intel's Exstream onboard graphics (which works quite well for onboard graphics). When setting the XGL Desktop Cube feature (KDE desktop with the Gnome's "Control Center" loaded to control the XGL) to 8 sides one...and only one of these computers (one with the onboard graphics) acually shows eight desktops, both in the panel and when it's "spun"...if you look from the top of the "cube" you can see all eight sides.....but the rest of the systems interlace the virtural Desktops, so as their "spun" or rotated...you would see the edge of one Desktop putrude through the other....and if you look at the "cube" from the top...you only see 4 sides! Does anybody know what is up with this...I may expect a difference with the PC that has the AGP Nvidia card....but not one of the onboard graphic PCs. Any ideas? Also the ZEN update shows that there are updates available (in the tray)...but when we click on it to update we end up with an error: ("Transaction failed: Can't provide ./i586/k3b-1.0.1-6.1.i586.rpm from http://packman.unixheads.com/suse/10.2/") from the "packman" software repository. Does anybody know if "Packman" repository is down or having a problem? Regarding this problem, when going into Yast to edit or view the Installation sources or to install new packages...it will hang on the "Packman" repository...I guess because it can't communicate with it....but it stop me from getting to the Yast "Installation Sources" and "Software Management" applets...becuase it get hung up on the "Packman" repository. 1. How do I test the Packman repository to confirm if its down? 2.How do I bypass this for the time being to get to the Yast applets that I need to get to? Does anybody know if SLED has these same problems? Thanks Chris -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org