So why was this not added to the list? Instead it was bounced back to me as if I had done something bad.. it's not from another list, it isn't html; perhaps I should have made the subject w/o testing??? message begins here do as you will oh Suse list GOd or equivelent status babysitter for the night : Made my dvd and installed on my amd 64 bit box.. w/ a nice new Syncmaster225 flat panel monitor on it.. and so far, I htink it's pretty on par w/ 10.0 , and my Euro linux mag freebie of 10.1. That being said there seem to be a few snags and a few things that will cause headaches to roll out system wide if they aren't tweaked before release. They do seemed to have moved things that seem to be moved for the helluvit rather than for any need to move them.. But that said , once found the items seem to operate in the old ways.. It's hard to tell what is a complaint about the system and what is a complaint about the xsetup pppfffrfft! on my box it appears to HATE certain windows that are Supervisor or root ,uhm... usually used by... and it has at least now stopped strobing, and just shuts off. if I have another window that doesn't offend it so much, I can w/ a little judicious movement of that other window get to the stuff I need to modify.. Adding fonts hasn't been a pretty day.. as witness this missive. but we have to do as needs must til I can find the damned backup disk that has the nasty things from that company which will always be nameless . ;) ( I have legit licenses for the fonts, I just never can find them the three times a year I usually need them ) <heavy sigh>. Most of the apps seem to work as expected. I hope we won't lose the kweather app.. ( Yeah I know they can't put everything in right this minute, but times a wasting kiddies.. arrival date is tout bloody sweet , to borrow an Andy Cappism. ) There were the usual why in hell did they do *that* discoveries, none bad enough to say I wouldn't install it. install is clean as a whistle barring the tangle over what file system you want to use.. ( and being told "no" by nanny ;-p```) once slected it went right to work. I kinda like that.. overview.. I'm going to buy it.. I hope they settle on some update scheme otherwise there will either be too many choices ( our poor lil "MS" and "Stevie's box" users will NOT be able to cope, I'm warning you now... mark my words ! I am going to have to tidy my filters on kmail.. a to be expected difficulty I s'pose, and easily ignored. To the wonderors , yes you can copy your kde from 10 up ( can't say about bellow 10.0) and it will have your settings pretty much as you left them.. you don't need to do everything unless you have every single possible thing set .. but things like email, if you use kmail anyway, and the kontact ( Kabc) addressbook , and Konversation etc. all transfer a treat! Then you need only transfer your actual email directory to be back in the saddle etc. about that quickly. generally, considering it was a full beta two days ago... imagine what a nice gold box will bring us :) -- j If a hurricane doesn't leave you dead. It will make you strong. Don't try to explain, just nod your head . Breathe in breathe out , move on. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org