On Sunday 26 November 2006 02:22, Benjamin Rosenberg wrote:
On Nov 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Saturday 2006-11-25 at 10:55 -0600, Steve Jeppesen wrote:
so do tell, what is this list for then?
Discussions about suse/novell linux. In my opinion, discussions about the future of that is more or less on topic, even if I dislike the tone of some of them.
Complaining will not make them go away, but rather, will increase the number of disccusions and the noise.
After close to 9 years on this list and hundreds of thousands of emails answer and sent .. I find the deal between SuSe (I'm an old fart, so leave me alone) and Microsoft VERY relevant to the future of what I will support and use. I remember quite well Microsoft crushing my beloved OS/2 with their bull**** and FUD. I don't want it to happen again to Linux. Believe the PHB's out there pay more attention to Microsoft paid pundits there we would believe. If they start seeing stuff like what Ballmer put forth .. they will shy away from Linux. This we can NOT have. So if Novell makes bad decisions that could effect my livelihood .. then by damn I want to know what they are. And if Novell has to be relegated to a bit player in the computing world .. so be it. It's not about SUSE, SuSE or SuSe .. it's about Linux and other GNU software.
Not one person here can accuse me of being a Chicken Little or having an agenda. I've used SUSE since 4.1 and even worked for SUSE in Oakland. I want them around just as much as anyone else, but I won't have their parent company making shit decisions that in danger Linux. All Microsoft has to bloody do is release their specs for things such as SMB, NTFS and other such things .. the FOSS developers will do the rest to make them work together better. We don't need an "agreement" for better operability .. that crap.
Anyway. The deal that Novell and Microsoft signed is very much ON topic. And if you people want to get back to the way this list was .. I'd agree that actually answering questions instead of RTFM or check the archives would be the way to go. This list hasn't been very great for information in quite a few years. I wish we could have it back, but I doubt that will happen.
- Ben
Thanks, Ben. you saved me from typing all that! 100% agree. I will continue to run SuSE on many servers (no way to migrate that fast, these are production servers), so I will stay here for a longer while. But playing with MEPIS on one notebook now to test it. Well, SuSE is better IMHO, but the difference is not too big. I might be able to live with it. At least the apt / synaptic stuff works and works fast. Oh well, I'm not happy at all about this situation :-( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org