I have been following the threads concerning software updating on 10.1 and just wanted to relay my experiences. My setup is very lowbrow in the sense that I have never installed any software other than what was available directly from YaST, with the exception of a 3rd party disaster recovery system and an Oracle server, both of which require manual installs of upgrades. I have no idea if the new updater software is even attempting to operate on my machine because it has never shown that there were updates waiting to be installed (since I installed 10.1 a week or more ago). Maybe it's not configured correctly (if the term "correctly" can even be applied to this tool, based on the horror stories I keep reading about it on this list). So, what I have been doing is simply launching YOU once a day to check on updates. Up until yesterday, there were never any available. However, both yesterday and today there were multiple patches available and they all installed seamlessly. I'm hoping the same will be the case when the Zen problem is finally taken care of (then I'll see if I can get this new susewatcher, or whatever it's called, to work). So, for anyone sitting out there that has shied away from updating due to all of the problems others are experiencing, you might just try launching YOU and seeing how it works for you. It is true that it is now extremely slow, as I understand it because of the interference being run on it by Zen, etc., but it does still function, at least for my setup. Greg Wallace -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com