Am Sat, 18. March 2006 01:17 schrieb Eberhard Moenkeberg:
Hi,
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 email.listen@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Fri, 17. March 2006 23:41 schrieb Johannes Kastl:
On 3/17/2006 8:55 AM jdd wrote:
can't a ftp server be a BT seeder?
It should be no problem. The FTP-Server's owner has to start seeding, and I dont know if that is normal. It should be.
What makes me think of jigdo/jigsaw downloads. Debian uses this for its images / mirror sites. Ddue to my experience it's mostly a lot faster than torrent downloads, mostly.
But to be honest I have no idea if this would work within a rpm based distribution. But it might be an interesting altenative to torrent images.
The center idea of the p2p protocols is to make the "upload" bandwith of the many many users the "download" bandwidth for the others. A great idea, but it is a design flaw to neglect the existing dedicated servers. So we need a new p2p protocol - intelligent enough to use the traditional download ressources too. Neglecting the presence is a bad start into future. Hmm, my first idea reading your posting was: I would like to answer, "Neglecting the nonacceptance of torrent seeding is bad also" ;-)
Torrent lacks a lot especialy for those who use low bandwith connections in several points. Also for those who have a high bandwith connection torrent often sucks. - Low Bandwith connections are very often paid per volume or per time. So an owner of a low bandwith connection will not be motivied to seed a torrent, for him it will increase the costs dramatically. - Those who own a high bandwith conections see that downloads offered by torrents are a lot slower than a regular ftp download. So these people also will not be motivied to seed a torrent. For them it's much better to use a regular ftp mirror. Over all it comes to the point, neither low bandwith users nor high bandwith users are motivated to seed a torrent. And that is exactly what we can see in the moment. Jigdo internal uses a list of mirrors for the download. - This list may have private mirrors like dyndny sites. So it is quite easy to bring it to some kind of torrent state. - Jigdo spreads the download/tx-bandwith to all/a lot of mirrors. What also is the main intention of a torrent, isn't it. But the biggest advantage of jigdo is for those who do the work for creating all the iso images. - Jigdo always uses the pure application pakets, *.deb's in Debian It uses the regular paket mirrors, not only mirrors for the iso images. So jigdo is very flexible in the meaning of maintainance. It is very easy to add fixed/improved pakets. regards, Thomas