On Tuesday 31 January 2006 15:02, Siegbert Baude wrote:
This explains very well, why SUSE is not including some stuff, which people would like to have. But inevitably the next question is: "I heard this nevertheless works somehow in SUSE. How?" I can tell you, because I personally answered this question quite often in usenet. If you then have two (or more) competing forums, an official Novell one and some private driven one, and you get your desired answer only in one forum, you just lost a member of your official forum. So really all means should be taken into account, to allow these kinds of questions to be answered. Best, if it would also be allowed to archive them. As this can lead to legal trouble for Novell, only the Novell legal staff can tell, if they see a possibility. I very much hope, that they succeed (if the SUSE employees on this list once start to really demand this answer from them. :-) )
I doubt people will leave an official openSUSE forum over that. Seriously, I don't. The fact is, they can't be answered explicitly, because the countries where its considered illegal are countries Novell does business in - theres no real way around that afaik, however, ianal.
I think thats a good thing because it raises awareness as to copyright, patent encumberment, and the issues with the DMCA as well as DRM. I'll continue to expand upon this article, with more links, more information, but still nothing that could be considered even remotely illegal. What it does do is give a general overview of solutions, and enough information, combined with google, to do whatever they want to. I personally feel thats quite sufficient.
The problem is, there is not enough information to find the answer "third party repositories; packman; guru". Never forget, that there are a lot of SUSE users out there, for whom it is completely legal to listen to MP3s and to watch DVDs with SUSE. The legal mess in USA, Germany and many other countries should not hinder them to get what they are allowed to.
Sure there are, but as mentioned above, those are countries Novell does business in; therefore anything officially Novell cannot explicitly reply to something that would be considered illegal. That said, I'm sure someone might mention something to them off the forum... and then its outside of Novell's hands as far as moderating for what could be considered illegal :)
So we should train the moderators to make people publish results in the wiki. Also on the mailing lists it should just become part of netiquette to finish a thread with "please, document your solution on the wiki".
I think this is an excellent idea - moderators and admins that are on the list, keeping both abreast of major topical discussions.
If others also agree, this should maybe fixed somewhere on the wiki as goal of the opensuse project. To be the best distribution also by offering the best user-driven documentation subproject.
And the most open lines of communication by all mediums :)
There is just the need to transport this to people willing to volunteer. And maybe also first the consensus here, that this is an official goal of the mailing lists and forum.
I don't think theres much issue there, I'm sure there are enough people (including myself) willing to be active participants in both. This type of thing doesn't need a single person or specified group to act as a go-between, whoever is on both should keep both up to date as to major pertinent discussions. Don't think there will be any break-down there.
BTW, with regard to the subject, are there any news of the meeting?
Its being held on the seventh... ??
Ciao Siegbert
Joseph M. Gaffney aka CuCullin