Bumped into this problem on Suse 10 last night. I normally run servers at runlevel 3 log in to the text terminal and type startx to get a graphical environment. Also, I don't like the sound of setting permissions to easy in /etc/sysconfig/security, so I set them to: CHECK_PERMISSIONS="set" PERMISSION_SECURITY="secure local" This means that the permissions in /etc/permissions.secure are applied nightly. But this takes the suid bit off /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg and the window manager can't start for a normal user. /etc/permissions.easy sets it to -rws--x--x root:root 2711 So as a compromise in /etc/permissions.secure I changed /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg to -rws--x--- root:video 2710 Then I put all the local users into "video" group. FWIW, michaelj -- Michael James michael.james@csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166 No matter how much you pay for software, you always get less than you hoped. Unless you pay nothing, then you get more.