I dont really comment much, but I recently have had thoughts maybe related. In my opinion I would love to see Gnome as the default desktop, that said, but not with KDE installed also. I think I read awhile back that there is a difference in the languages used to build each, c/c++ ? dunno... but in my experience Gnome had always seemed to have a better response time as a desktop, mouse movements was what I noticed... Obviously I love Gnome, but ultimately I'm still using KDE applications... primarily Knonqueror, Kate... FireFox is wonderfull in Gnome, pretty much everything is (but I've had no cause to log into KDE). However, my (only) gripe is, that since installing 9.3 a few months ago, and having done YaST online updates since then, SuSE Plugger and SuSE Watcher are still being a real pain in the rear, and none of the updates have rectified this problem. There might be valid points about dependencies etc, in Gnome, personally I think I found that installing everything including the Development packages is one step closer to reducing the hunt for dependent packages. However, I dont really have the time, or mind to get into that side of things with SuSE/Linux, I just need something that helps me get the few things that I need done etc, so in this respect, my only reason for upgrading is when their might be newer versions of applications that I would like to use... Gnome being one of them. But with the above said, and the comment about SuSE Plugger not being fixed, I'm seriously considering why is it worth be sending off the $x dollars for distro disks and manuals... when something like the bug in (Gnome ?) SuSE Plugger/Watcher is not being fixed... as opposed to finding/installing newer versions of SuSE at no cost.... admittedly each instance of $x dollars might be trivial but over the years == $MS.... I just hope that a portion of the money spent actually does get back to the developers of these applications, eg. KDE, Gnome etc... Anyway... Gnome is my choice for a default desktop. -- devosc