http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=05/10/19/2026240 some interesting derivatives from SuSE. Yes, I know it's mainly from open SuSE for those who are likely to start screaming OT :-) It does however show that there is a fan base big enough to warrant a derivative that wants purely KDE as the desktop. There has alos been a poll held by the UK Linux Format magazine asking on desktop preference. KDE came out big style on top. with, I think it was over 70% of the vote with Gnome getting just over 20%. I have to admit that I do like Gnome in Ubuntu 5.10 though..... what's happening to me??? Am I really becoming a Gnome fan....ooer. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR