I see on 10.0 the problem with exiting KDE into the console STILL hasn't been fixed (same prob as I've had with the BETA 4, RC1 and even the alpha 10.1) This is now on the OFFICIAL SUSE 10.0 What happens is that when you logout of KDE ( I have RUN Level 3 as default) I get these messages waiting for X sever to shut down kdeinit: Fatal IO error: Client killed klauncher: Exiting on signal 15 kded: Fatal IO error client killed starting artsd! (what on earth is THIS artsd ???? my comment here) kcminit: cannot connect to X server 0:0 Now I press CTRL-Z I then get message [1]+ Stopped /usr/X11R6/bin/startx ${1+"$@"} 2>&1 | tee $HOME/ .Xerr Then the normal console prompt I can start X again or login as a different user Cheers Ferdinando