On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:53:19AM +0200, JBScout [Thomas Lodewick] wrote:
sorry, but I think you are wrong, too .... sorry ;) [maybe we are both, but thats why we are on that list to talk about it ;)]
Indeed. :-)
- nvidia-driver: the interface between OS and driver is open source, while the driver itself is closed source.
So you agree that SUSE has non-OSS in it. At least indirectly. This could be done with mp3 and dvd stuff as well. <snip>
( hmm, I don't know if that term matches here, because "open source" for fonts .... I don't know. but they are free of charge as they are at the MS-site).
There is a difference betwee open source and free software. We are talking free as in speech, not free as in beer.
If there would be a closed source to be installed, so be it. (as long as it is legal).
ok - that deepends on the look of view of every user himself. there are out a lot of people who *never* would mix a OSS-system with closed software, and some say "uh - why not". how mutch software has to be OSS, and how mutch software could be closed software, so the hole system is still OSS ? I don't know.
That is their good right. You will never be forced to install the software.
same as obove. I think it depends on the look of view of individuals. but I think that not mutch of users of a OSS-system would buy a software
It is strange that you tell this on openSUSE, wich three goals are working to make SUSE better. SUSE is buyable in boxed sets. <snip>
PS: yes, I would pay for the software - even when it's closed. but I will have to think about it if buy the boxed version again and that will came out without the needed tools. then it would be better they put 5 Euros on top of the price I have to pay already for the box, and I'm happy with it. but not without it.
The ideal would be to have the closed source that you need to buy to get your stuff together seperated from the box, the website or even the OS itself. That way people who are not interested do not need to pay for it and people who want it can still pay for it. In an ideal world all source would be open and it is nice to talk about that. Unfortunatly this will not happen and we need to deal with that. Doing something illegal is not an option for openSUSE, so we are stuck with either no DVD watching, or paying up in some way or another. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. -- houghi http://www.opensuse.org/index.php/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs