{OT - anti - flame - post} Re: [SLE] SuSE9.2 64-Bit installation problems

[OT] I apologize to others, and feel this worth mentioning. I have been on this list and others for several months. Your right, I used a little taste of their own medicine for effect. I personally prefer top posts. With full quotes on the bottom for reference. To each their own (flame on if you feel the need....) I would have assumed that Anders works at or closely with SuSE from the Signature. I would also assume that he has more knowledge then me on these matters based on the parts he did explain in brief. I have moved away from SysAdmin (although I still have those responsibilities) and into development. I have been M$ free for many years now (thank god!). The point of my mail (and I think Anders got it based on his well put reply) was that it doesn't do the industry, the list, or anything else any good to make assumptions about and flame people for their style or level of familiarity / skills / Experience. I didn't think I needed to explain this and wasn't going to because Anders reply was well put. I was satisfied. However, your response is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. I recently read an article in one of my linux mags that talked about the difficulty for the laymen to get involved in the open-source movement. The main problem or deterrent that was referred to was the prevailing attitude of those that are in the know. When you as a question and get told to RTFM. When you get on a mailing list and ask some questions only to get flamed. One of the skills I have been working on is how to turn someones energy to flame me into energy to give me the answer I'm looking for. I don't think it should be that way. Anders had an excellent point in his response, "if he had sent a decent mail I might have commented a bit more thoroughly". I tell that to newbies all the time. Because of my respect for the folks at SuSE and the many thousands of people that have helped me over the years, I was struck by his response to that post and said so. He had a great reply to mine, and it was over. from the "note:  no need to reply as I will not see it here or on my server." this guy put at the bottom of his post, I assume also that he has blacklisted me from his system.... Can't we all just get along? If a person is truly good enough at what they do, they should easily be able to get other to follow their reasoning without brute force, flame prodding. I wish I could find the article I'm talking about, well worth the read. I think our cleaning lady threw it out when she cleaned the bathroom this weekend.... B-) On Tuesday 16 November 2004 09:15 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Brad Bourn [11-16-04 11:01]:

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Why the flames?

How bout provide some sound logic for him to work with?

Or is it easier to come across like you actually know what your talking about if you make fun or someone and discredit them......

You would probably (I may be mistaken here) benefit by sitting on the sidelines for a month or two and observe the goings-on in this forum.

You have entered with an abrasive attitude, you top post and full quote and have no knowledge of the abilities of the individual you have attacked and, apparently, the qualities required for an 'enterprise' system.

note: no need to reply as I will not see it here or on my server. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/photos