*** Reply to message from "Carlos E. R."
How on earth did you look for them? They are not hidden.
using yast search button, and obviously too quickly, I must have left one of the items unchecked.. i.e. provides or contains, or something like that. It's been rather hectic round here lately. We had a 3 computers whose ups didn't ( apparently) behave correctly or protect them, since when power went down so did the computer, instantly. And we had some serious surges etc before power went down for good, But by that time I had just shut everything down , i.e. a restart, which on journaling systems will check to see if everything is right ( it wasn't ) it then ran the appropriate fsck and said all was well, so I did a "proper" shutdown. And simply turned all the computers off since we were having all this power on power off power on again for a second or two and then pow ! off. ( Also ran in and turned off the telly for similar reasons, it also dislikes power spikes as well as whatever else it ( weather and the FLP )was doing. Later we discoverd that all UPS except one, which hadn't been connected to a computer that was turned on during this weirdness, were just about completely drained of power. Now, I'm not talking about the little thing they sell you that is basically a power strip, these were APC UPS, and 1000, and 1500 respectively. SO something had been seriously wrong w/ the power for a while before it became noticable by going off and on rapidly. Those two should be able to power, for instance a Halogen lamp and a small fan for several hours, the 1500 Model should have been able to power a 4 inch telly as well. But they couldn't support anything, and obviously that was one reason the boxen would crash the way they did. In the meantime, at least one crash did *something* to mess up the OS so that when we finally had power again neither of the two main boxen would boot.. ran thru the various checks Suse so kindly provides and one box began at least to boot but seemed missing some files so the performance left a lot to be desired. Sometimes a program just wouldn't start, sometimes choosing a componant would lock the system up hard, Solution, in both cases was a clean reformatted reinstall w/ all the stuff backed up restored, and anything that hadn't been backed up prior to the crash was lost. Fortunately I had been so busy trying to get everything backed up so we could get it to the bank ( it's room where the safe deposit boxes looks as if it *could* take a direct hit from most anything except perhaps the cave killer bombs!) That only email was being regularly changed, and I probably lost a message or several, shikata ga nai , ne? At least Ivan went westwardly and now appears he will do some good for So Fla. Jeanne is unlikely to hit the states at all because Ivan is where it is and probably will be there, dumping rain for quite a few long days and nights. that has shoved the "strong high" away, and it now seems as if Jeanne will go east of the Bahamas, who aslo need a break and west of Bemuda, who got hit earlier in the year w/ several messy Hurricanes as well. The whole thing this year is begining to remind me of my childhood, and how we could almost guarranttee that school would begin a week or more later than planned because Carol and Edna, or another duo would come up to see what was going on in the cooler climes. The more things change... etc. hope that gives you some explination of what has been going on round here, and why I'm not my usual chipper self. Mainly sleep deprivation... but that no doubt will eventualy be resolved as well. -- j -- nemo me impune lacessit