I have SuSE 9.1 pro and also personal (on another machine). At any rate, a stock install allows me to edit the kde menus without difficulty. I can add/remove whatever I want, subfolders, entries etc. After applying the updates to both system, I can still add or remove items, but only once. Any subsequent opening of kmenuedit results in that subfolder being empty. If I try to expand it, nothing is there. Not a major problem as I can still see the items in the KDE menu. However, lets say I add an item to the Utility menu then save the changes. Go back into kmenuedit and I can't change anything again in the Utility menu since it is empty. Any attempt to add something (even though it is empty) appears to work but badly screws up the KDE menu for that category. Any thoughts? Anyone else having this prob? P.S. I tried starting from scratch and whacking the .desktop and menu files kmenuedit creates, still no dice. Thanks - Keith