(SuSE 9.1, Gnome 2.4, grip 3.1.4) I was happily ripping some CDs. I inserted the next one and grip failed to recognize it as an audio CD. Thinking I had a bad CD, I tried the next one in sequence with the same results. Hardware problem, right? I tried putting the "bad" CDs into another system, using grip, with the same results. I tried playing the CDs. The system did not even recognize they were there. Tried playing the CDs on a (for shame) MS Windows system. MS Media Player picked them right up and played them for me. Now I'm thoroughly confused. Barring some probability 10E-64 coincidence, I've eliminated all the usual suspects. Any pointers or suggestions will be happily accepted with my thanks. -- Donald D. Henson, Managing Director West El Paso Information Network The Non-Aggression Principle Rules