On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 04:06:23AM -0700, Riccardo Facchini wrote: : --- Mike McMullin <__> wrote: : > On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 05:17, peter Nikolic wrote: : > > On Thursday 10 Jun 2004 09:46, Eugene Lee wrote: : > > > : > > > At this stage, SuSE can NEVER be a home desktop solution. Why? : > > > : > > > Because there is no simple control panel to chage fundamentally : > > > trivial settings like switching duplex of the Ethernet card on : > > > boot. : : Question N? 1: How many times a day do you change switching duplex of : the ethernet card on boot? Never. However, due to the requirements of datacenter, the machine must *not* default to slower autonegotiation. I haven't yet found a way via YaST to do this. Also, if the machine is rebooted for some reason, then I would have to remember to drive to the datacenter, log in, and change the duplex. This is extremely stupid and stands against The Unix Way. : Question N? 2: Where's the "simple control panel" on M$? I know of the : Control Panel, but I can't say is "Simple"... I never mentioned M$. I don't care about M$. : > > Here we go again the M$ Corp mentality if windBlows has git it then : > > Linux is no good without it ho Hummmmmm Point #1: I don't care about M$. See above. Point #2: You guys need to give up the idea that everything M$ Windoze does is bad. Half of Windoze is not bad, but it is poorly executed. If you really hated Windoze, many of you wouldn't be running window managers that resembled Windoze XP. Point #3: You guys need to drop the notion that criticism of SuSE is neither constructive nor useful. If you continue to believe that SuSE is perfect, YaST is feature-complete, etc. (when in reality it's not), then nothing will ever improve. : > The reason I went with SuSE over other distro's was YAST. As much : > as SuSE has refined it, and even deprecated the ncurses version, it : > is in my experience much easier to navigate than MS's Control Panel. : : And I agree that YaST is almost complete as CP, but of course, coming : from M$ experiences, is different... you need some time to explore it : and adapt to it... I never mentioned M$, I am not an M$ person, I don't care about M$. But YaST is far from complete. For example, how do you disable SSH? : what happened when you switched cars? do you expect your new car to : have the same exact functionalities in the same exact places as the old : one? I expect very similar functionality going from one flavor of Unix to another. I do not expect missing functionality.