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Re: [SLE] win4lin and suse 9.1
  • From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 13:58:56 +0100
  • Message-id: <40C70990.70604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Matt T. wrote:

On Wednesday 09 June 2004 09:39, peter Nikolic wrote:

On Tuesday 08 Jun 2004 16:25, Michael Satterwhite wrote:

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On Tuesday 08 June 2004 06:31, Matt T. wrote:

Or, just wait another year, and wine / crossover is there, or gimp,
quanta etc... ;-) there is not much missing anymore!

I own crossover, and it works great for standard apps, but there is a
*LOT* missing. And, yes, I've done the recent upgrade.

well i have never managed to get crossover to run so it got canned


. I'd love to completely forget about Windows,

thats very easy to do i did it around 10 years ago ..

but it's not realistic, yet. Usining Win4Lin, I don't have to reboot to
run the packages I need.

and any how there is always VMware if win4Lin dont do it for you
personally they are both a waste of space .

yes, in an ideal world it shouldn't be necessary to put in so much effort just to run windows apps. But sometimes I cannot afford that luxury of not using some windows apps. (Besides doing some reverse engineering ;-)

If I have a limited time to do a job, and with the old win app I know I can do it in minutes, and the linux apps (I know) will take significantly more time to do the job, or more time than I have, than I got no choice. Tools like win4lin allow me to minimize the windose usage as much as possible.

As an example take photoshop and gimp. I can do, and I do, more and more in Gimp. But some things, such as text effects, are still just taking way too much time there, so I do them in Photoshop.
The gimp was developed in answer to Adobe's refusal to hear the pleas of very many Linux users for a port, even telling them that photoshop ran on Linux under the Mac emulator (Executor) didn't make them budge. Much later when they said they were considering a port, but the interest was no longer there amongst Linux users.

Now to make my life easier I still like to know if I can dare to use the generic win4lin 2.6.x kernels instead of the SuSE one, or if I will run into big problems. Can you help me with that?

I used VMware for quite a while until it refused to work with the latest greatest kernels back at 2.2.x. I now have crossover office which I got as proof of concept as colleagues considering a move to Linux said they had to have Lotus Notes (ran under wine for years) and MS Office. The first excursion in trying to get Notes running became very political, the person I'd been dealing with at our datacentre trying to verify my settings, spoke to their Director and I was told if I wanted to change back from Notes, I'd have to get permission from my manager and he would have to get the OK from our Managing Director, I said I could get it to work given time, then I got a call from a "Linux guru" so called who told me it wouldn't work and to abandon it. Five minutes online in the office one morning and Notes was working. A few of us were determined to do eveything under Linux, occasionally people in the datacentre refused to talk to us, we got things working, then a few of them woke up and decided to try Linux and started asking me questions when they knew the success we were having using Linux for all our corporate work.
It's worth the try with generic 2.6.x kernels, if it doesn't work first off, no bones are broken and that should soon be fixed. 2.6.x kernels are not seeing any siesmic changes now.

Sid Boyce .... Hamradio G3VBV and keen Flyer

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