Sorry if that subject line appears to be mashing things together, they may be related. I've now tried to get a cf card to mount using a usb card reader on two 9.1 machines, fully patched including kernel patches, and upgraded to kde 3.2.2. I've also tried to get both to recognise a camera attached by USB, which works fine under 8.2 and 9.0. Rather like Art Fore's problems with a firewire hd, I get a 'cant enter folder' message, or sometimes no message at all. Though at least ARt seems to be able to get to part of his disk. SuSEplugger can see the cf disk as a disk in at least some cases, and sometimes a Konq window opens. The camera gets assigned a directory like: file:/media/usb-storage-odd-NIKON-NIKONDSCD70:0:0:0p1 but you can't change into it or list it. The konqueror window dies after a while and has to be closed down. I've had the same with trying to launch things like the bbc radio listen-on-line service, which again worked fine in 8.2 and 9.0. I'm also reading huge load averages on one of the machines during, though not necessarily due to, this business - loads like 8.5. But top only shows one or two running processes that don't seem to account for that sort of load, and are typically X and top itself. For a lark, I tried booting the machine with the camera plugged in and switched on, but this produced a grub error message and the box wouldn't boot. It also seems to rather defeat the point of USB if one has to reboot - not that things worked then either. I think something is quite odd in the new mounting system, but don't know where to try to fix things. I can't say I think much of the 'My computer' window, much as it may be trying to make windows users feel at home, at my end it just seemed to obscure the device names. I'd be very grateful if people could report success or failure with cf cards and cameras under 9.1, perhaps to me rather than the list, and then I'll summarise if there's enough traffic to warrant it. -- Fergus Wilde Chetham's Library Long Millgate Manchester M3 1SB Tel: +44 161 834 7961 Fax: +44 161 839 5797 http://www.chethams.org.uk