-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 11 April 2004 05:29, Kelly Fulks wrote:
Remember these "nebulous layers" are what make the system stable and robust and give you the choice to use what you like. This is how things are separated in process space as well as divisions of labor for building them. This is why a misbehaving application can't take out the entire OS or even the entire GUI.
As for the backwards portion that Curtis wrote about, who cares which is the server and which is the client when the system is working? It is a display provider and an application provider. It doesn't matter what they are called, end users would never call them the right thing anyway. They could never tell you that the app server was down or the database server was down, they can just say that my "xyz" isn't working today. Or my drive "w" isn't there.
-- Kelly L. Fulks Home Account near Huntsville, AL
Yes, it's those layers that I found to be so much more pliable and offered the seperate process space to afford one the ablility to restart X should it crash. My lord, I can't imagine trying to get those kludgy ATI FireGL drivers working without being able to drop to a tty and futz with the system. I think that many graphics gurus major grips are in the manner in which X's foundation was laid out to begin with. It's all about the politics at the core level and the compromises that were made. Certainly sacrifices are often made in such situations. Unfortunately key components of X dead end and and others, from accounts of those really in the know, just don't make a lot of sense. Moreover I think the politics can't be ignored. The XF86 devs are quite capable but have differing ideas related to what's important. Of course maintaining some semblence of control over people that are quite intelligent and skilled is an enomormous task in and of itself. But the repeated complaints are to a lack of accessibility to the XF86 project by outside groups and people. It's all pretty much moot because the present advert clause in the new license has caused the majority of Distros and 3rd party devs/project to back away from XF86 4.4 and it runs a strong likelyhood of withering on the vine. I'll stop now because this is getting distinctly OT and we have a list for that. Cheers, Curtis :) - -- Spammers Beware: Tresspassers will be shot, survivors will be shot again! Warning: Individuals throwing objects at the crocodiles will be asked to retrieve them! If pro is the opposite of con, then the opposite of progress must be congress! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAeY7E7CQBg4DqqCwRAjSeAJ9Au0oHah5h/WX1Dv5G6SIJcFIjKgCfc/gd d+X1QbN0LJmGhAdpbEJMCY8= =KVNU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----