Hi Eric, On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 12:33:24 -0600 UTC (12/19/2003, 12:33 PM -0600 UTC my time), Eric wrote: E> IMO you dont need IMAP services for a SIMPLE mail server setup. As the E> webpage says, POP3 was designed for when you are retruieving mail to ONE E> computer. If thats all you;re doing, then thats all you need. My point is Jim, if not armed with information, will not get a clear picture of what is available. We do not know what his needs are, so we can't dismiss protocols in general. What if he wants to access his "simple" server while away from his computer, say at work, or grandma's, on vacation, or whatever, and still have the benefits of IMAP, as previously mentioned? E> My philosophy is install just enough for waht you need. Any extra E> features just introduce chances for configuration mistakes, bugs, feature E> bloat, and security risks. This may not be true of IMAP, or of ALL IMAP E> implementations, but its a handy general rule for computer administration E> and computer programming. Binc imap is used for qmail, in the qmail philosophy, small modular programs. It is 1000s of lines < Courier, and 100s of 1000s of less code than UW or Cyrus. It even uses checkpassword from qmail.. E> Hehe, ok ok you humbled me. I mostly work with POP3 so i figured it was E> easier. Thanks for the clarification though. E> Most ISP's use POP3 (or the major ones I know of) and POP3 is relatively E> simplistic I figured its a better choice to begin with. What does an ISP have to do with using IMAP. Do you know why they use POP? Well, how about Earthlink having 10 million customers (whatever figure it is) store their unlimited mail boxes on their servers' hard drives instead of the customer's own computer ... I don't think so.. That is why they use POP.. For your info, most Universities, e.g. Univ of Mich, use IMAP servers, as well as many large companies. IMAP also offers the benefit of shared folders. E> If Mr. Linuxjim wants to go with IMAP I suppose i'll just refer him to E> you ;) sure.. <g> BTW, why do you copy me and the list, when I have my Return-Path set to the list? -- Gary When the going gets tough, the tough take a coffee break.