Folks, With some difficulty I upgraded most-all the the base, devel, and language RPM for KDE for SuSe 8.0. Couple of problems, some RMPs are not compatible with each other from the SuSe web site (kdebase3 and kdebase3-extra, for example) and why they put them up there without checking I do not know... Anyway, the real problem is now KDE 3.1.4 launches but there is not configuration or set up happening at login. I only see a console window after login and it cannot be moved. I can launch a few applications but the windows opened have no frame and cannot be moved. There is no desktop. Any suggestions how to "fix" this or am I SOL? Thanks, Babu __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/