On Wednesday 11 June 2003 01:36, John Murphy wrote:
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 01:11, Curtis Rey wrote:
As I stated before. This is an important period for Linux and one that if done correctly will put it in a steady market position. Pair this with the fact, unlike Mac, that it runs on the common x86-ia32 arch and can be easily put on any common store bought computer then it's just a matter of catering to the OEM's and ISV's to enable them to produce products and software with a minimum of effort. And frankly, this is what scares the sh** (language filter) out of M$.
Cheers, Curtis.
I wasn't going to comment on this thread but the urge is just to great. I've been using Suse since 6.3 plus tried a few other distributions over the years. I feel that the main goal of any serious Linux distributions is the server market. The desktop market is just some added income for them with little funding. It still has many hurdles to overcome for the average new user. Hardware compatibility still has many problems. Then throw in all the new USB products, DVD's, PDA's, and graphics cards, sit back and wait a year or never. I do have a life besides trying to make Linux work and function. At the end of this year it will be time to replace this computer, it won't be Microsoft or Linux but Mac. I have three friends that were Linux users that have gone to Mac, they just love it. I feel I'm at the time in my life to spend more time using new hardware and programs rather then trying to make them all work!
John.......... ===================
John, First of all, let me say we would miss you and hope you might reconsider your plans. Let me comment on each of your statements, to see if I can add any insight or help make your decision easier, whichever you decide. You have been using Linux much longer than I have, as I only started with 7.2 of SuSE about 2 years ago. In fact, June is my Linux anniversary! So due to that fact, I won't try to pretend I know more about your experiences than you do. Obviously you have attempted to love Linux and how it works during your "test" period. ;o) I think I would have have to disagree first of all that Linux is not also a desktop OS now. Many of the things that prevented it from being a viable desktop OS are gone now and I find it to be one of the best around in both installation and hardware setup. Gnome2 and KDE3 are beautiful GUIs in looks and working well. Having the correct hardware is helpful, yes and if the hardware manufacturers were held to a higher set of standards and quality, few would have need to complain about any OS working correctly. IBM compatible hardware is still some of the oldest around, believe it or not, but blame that on M$ for holding it back, not Linux for not working on some of it. One of the advantages Apple has in this regard is that they are the only ones that make their hardware, but also one of the biggest drawbacks in getting their hardware & OS widely accepted. Good hardware is available though and makes Linux that much more fun to work with too. I can attest to that as can many here, I suspect. It gets boring sometimes because everything works so well and reliably with my setup. :o) I also think the Linux community of users and developers are some of the quickest reacting to problems, fixes and needed software than any group I have been aquainted with since the Amiga. The Linux community reacts quickly to needed software and linking to new hardware I believe, but with anything lacking the full resources available to them that M$ has or Apple has in full time dedicated to the project workers, some things take a bit longer to iron out all the bugs. It's not from a lack of trying though, as these Linux guys & girls surely stay up late at nite fixing, building and making things work correctly. For their dedication to their goals, I am appreciative, but it is not for that I continue to use Linux. It's so many other things about Linux that I enjoy using it and will continue to use it. If you want a good reliable hardware setup, contact me, I'll build you one like mine or give you instructions on what you need to do it yourself. Then install your SuSE 8.2 on it and let us know how difficult that was! Bored and loving it with Linux, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange...