-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 22 May 2003 10:02, Dave Smith wrote: <snip>
Also, he's saying that the 'kernel vulnerability' in 2.4.20 will affect *all* linux distros that use it. I say that by each distro doing it's own 'patching' of kernels doesn't necessarily mean it's 'vulnerable' in *every* distro. I'm probably and will easily admit it, but I figured I'd find out from other sources (you guys) first, since I don't wqant to take the word of one person only...him. My argument is, that since I've not seen or heard of either of these vulnerabilities in SuSE 8.2, and that if they *were* affecting 8.2, SuSE is *very fast* to make the announcements along with workarounds and/or a patch or updated rpm of <whatever>.
Which kernel vulnerability? This one?
http://lists2.suse.com/archive/suse-security-announce/2003-Mar/0011.html
If it is, you'll see that 8.2 isn't vulnerable.
According to this URL he posted, there's a new(?) kernel vulnerability. I just haven't heard nor read *anything* other than the URL he gave about it. Here-> http://www.secunia.com/advisories/8786 So it's not the one in the URL you gave. <snip>
One last thing (it's an argument covering a lot of areas, heh), he's also saying that SuSE is 'meager' in its support of applications. He says Debian supports 8000 apps to SuSE's 2000...is this true also? He said 8000 are on the Debian CD's, I argued, that though there's may not be 8000 on the SuSE CD's/DVD's, that doesn't mean the apps won't work in SuSE, that he's just using a poor argument to say how Debian is 'better' overall (I personally don't think any one distro of Linux is 'better' or 'worse' than another, because it's *all* Linux, but this guys started to put down SuSE with a lot of unfounded garbage and I stepped up to defend the 'unfounded' part, not jusy SuSE).
Number of applications is a pointless argument. If it works on Debian, it'll probably work on SuSE; if not, then a bit of tinkering will probably make it work.
I said the exact same thing, but he's one of these wormy bastards who twists anything he reads into something completely different from the original.
SuSE is very good in terms of the number of apps distributed. Anyway, what do you call an 'application'? You can massage figures to tell you anything you want.
So...am I really way off base and throwing mud in my own face with my arguments against this guy?
Possibly. Possibly not
Opinions anyone?
Don't bother. He's obviously a Debian evangelist. You're not going to change his mind. Let him use Debian. At least he's not using Windows.
He 'supposedly' uses SuSE also(?), 8.1 I think he said, but it's just the *way* he's saying things that makes me think (even from the start) that he's lyin' out his butt.
You're happy with what you're using (I hope). Keep using it. Don't waste your time arguing; do something more productive.
Bet your butt I'm happy with SuSE! Thing is, it's not an argument about which distro is 'better' or not, it's the fact he just came out of no where when someone asked some questions about SuSE, saying it's less secure than others, less can be done on it, doesn't come with much to offer (like apps), etc, things like that. I felt because he was just talkin' BS, I'd put some facts into the matter from first-hand experience with SuSE as my only OS since 7.3, and he just kept coming back trying to 'prove' I was either lying, didn't know enough about linux to be saying each distro does 'tweaks' and things to the kernel and thus one distro may not have the vulnerability others may have, or just was too stupid to know what I was saying at all.
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