At last 8.2 is in Australia, the package came in today. I really really really wish Suse did a lightweight International subscription service. Register interest (email address) on the web site. Get an E-mail a month in advance of the release date. Click the loaded URL, go direct to store, select and pay. 2 DVDs arrive by airmail (within a days of release date). Price? Surely US$30 - 50 would cover it. Perhaps offer express service for an extra $10. Not much different from the current online offerings except the weight of the (excellent) manual sinks airmail. It is out here, in the distant reaches of the internet that the bandwidth of a flying DVD actually beats the net. Even locally we pay US$10 per Gig for bits so there is room to beat the internet on price as well. An opportunity for Suse, currently squandered, much to my frustration, michaelj -- Michael James michael.james@csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166