Just completed upgrading to 8.2 and all went quite well. However, apps like gaim and xchat now die when I try to start them: jlemay@rogue:~> gaim ** ERROR **: Failed to match any font. This could be due to a broken Xft configuration, or if you run XFree 4.1.0 due to a bug in libXrender. For more information about this, read http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68030 If I 'export GDK_USE_XFT=0' these apps start working again. Is there a "better" solution? I can't find any packages relating to xft or fontconfig, which is where the actual problem is I believe. Is this at all related to pango/freetype2? -- John LeMay KC2KTH Senior Enterprise Consultant NJMC | http://www.njmc.com | Phone 732-557-4848 Specializing in Microsoft and Unix based solutions