* Anders Johansson
How much of the KDE overhead is invoked if you start KMail in blackbox?
hm. Good question. I thought I knew how to read the numbers in "free" and "ps", but apparently I don't. kmail has a virtual size of 35 MB of which about 20 is resident, and the kdeinit processes take up some number of MB too (RSS) but according to "free" the available memory only drops by about 13MB when I start it.
One thing to read memory for one process that also hints how much is $ cat /proc/<pid>/status When I do: $ cat /proc/`pidof blackbox`/status [...] VmSize: 4360 kB VmLck: 0 kB VmRSS: 2236 kB VmData: 476 kB VmStk: 28 kB VmExe: 328 kB VmLib: 3120 kB I see that blackbox takes 4360 kB of memory, but the 3120 kB of them is XLib which is also loaded b/c of X. If one uses no other KDE programs, it makes for horrible startup times, since you need to load all the kdelibs stuff. Could someone using WindowMaker please send the Vm* data above for WindowmMaker, I think it's bigger than blackbox b/c of all the bloat :-) -- Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk [Favorite flag: Cloaking] "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?" -- A. P. J.