Hi You seem to be totally right what comes to Your own opinion. There is no room for others.. that is too bad. In Your opinion downloading few kilobytes or even tenths of kilobytes of text is too much.. Then why download anything at all? And at the same time You say one can go and search the SuSE database.. so what is really wasting bandwidth/time/effort? With modem it doesn't take all that long to donwload messages in this list, even with full quotes. But browsing is slow... Getting the list twice a day equals to downloading of one nice picture :-)
Top-posting is a bad thing and is against any normal logic. Of course, it depends on one's definition of normality. So You are saying that everyone else is not normal except the ones that quote excatly as You want then to do?
Even if it means more readable messages?
If You can't remember, what the previous message was about when following replying to, I can always find the original message on lists.suse.com. Or order a new copy from this list if I managed to delete it already. So if You don't remember the previous message, then who replies should always quote in the beginning, and make us all scroll and waste our time?
Or even worse as You say, go browsing the net.. and how much kilobytes You need to download them compared downloading the message with quotes?
But for me, if I see a long quote in the beginning, and few lines of answer at the bottom, I'm not ready to read it unless it is really interesting.
If quoting is bad and message contains no answers for you, don't read it. Save your time and make your reading easy.
Even worse is replying here and there without paying too much attention how to make it clear where the reply is, and where the original is.
Original lines are indented, usually with ">" but still you can make it hard to read.. I don't want to waste my time by editing for someones pleasure. Just a reply, and that's it.
When reading a top-post, if the answer seems to be interesting, and the thread is new to me, then I will read the rest once to get the idea of the thread.
By doing so, I do save a lot of time and effort.
You save your time and effort while wasting time and money of the people on dial-up connections paying per kB transferred. Not everybody on this list has cable or DSL, because they simply live in a country where such things do not exist at all. Please think about them a bit Like Your idea to go and search the database wouln't waste bandwidth, bytes, time and nerves....
Even this post, when someone first reads Your post, then reads this reply, do not need to scroll down and try to find my reply. They will remember the previous in the thread (the message I'm replying now), so why indeed they should be bothered to scroll again and again the same text...
Why did you include it then? To make phone bills for guys in poor countries even higher? And scare them from this list? In case someone comes in then middle of thread, and want to know what is going on here...
The main thing to me, is the ease of reading.. and it really can't be that wrong!
It does not affect my ease of reading if you put full original message at the bottom of your comments. It is pure waste of bandwidth. Please do not leave original message at the bottom.
And lets get back to technical sides of SuSE Linux.
Thanks and regards, -Kastus I agree. And stop nagging of other peoples opinion what is right and what is wrong. There is clearly wrong kind of messages, but they always tend to lead to lack of information, not the way they are written...
You can always put a filter, so that You dowload only the first 80-or so lines from any message. Looking back this message, it is a real mess! This just can't be what people want to read... no way! Jaska