If you open an xterm EVEN if the X session is owned by your user account and you type 'su -' or 'sux' then YOU are working as root. The only difference is that if you type 'su -' then you can not execute the X based installer. :) I just installed Mozilla 1.0 final tonight this way and it worked absolutely without a doubt PERFECTLY :) sux (suing w/ privilages to run X programs), su will give you root privilages but you must do 'su -' to have it pick up root's environment other wise it's root privilages w/ your environment...simple. Glad you got it installed. I would check out O'Reilly's Essential Systems Administrator guide..it explains quite a bit..accept the sux thing..that's a SuSEism. :) * gilson redrick (gilsonr@cityisp.net) [020605 19:23]: ::SuSE gurus (Tara Andrews, Ben Rosenberg et al): :: ::At first, I was quite pissed because you told me I had to log in as root or ::sux, when I had clearly said "I'm doing all as root!" [So I honestly thought.] ::Though I had not said it, I was doing all within KDE, so not running X ::couldn't possibly apply. :: ::In the process, I learned a curious lesson. :: ::I use Midnight Commander extensively, Konsole not so much. One of the neat ::things both have is that, by clicking on File, you're offered five choices, ::two of which are Root Console and Root Midnight Commander; both require that ::you enter the root password to access the application. I had **assumed** that ::by entering the root password, I was working as full root. I now know better. ::So, as normal user, I applied for Root Console and did there all the work for ::the mozilla installation, until I came to the scratching halt of errors and ::denial of authorization. Honestly, I was flabbergasted. :: ::Cooling the head overnight, I logged in *as root* and went to issue the ::installation command. All went without a hitch! :: ::Moral: working in Root Console as root is not the same thing as working as ::"real" root. Oh, vey... -=Ben --=====-----=====-- mailto:ben@whack.org --=====-- If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little. -GC --=====-----=====--