I started a thread on the suse-e list so that list members could express what they liked and/or thought needed to be improved with the SuSE interface. Here are the responses so far: On Saturday 18 May 2002 11:37, Brian Durant wrote: - 1) Some people have commented to me privately that they would like to see - YAST 2 packages more logically organized according to whether you are - running - a work station, server, etc. A little like Mandrake. - - 2) I personally would like to see YOU handling ALL SuSE RPM updates and not - just some deemed important for security issues. The update process appears - to - need some tightening of loose bolts as well, as there are a number of - people - on the list that have complained about getting updates that they - didn't - select. There have also been comments about connection and download - problems. - Whether that is YAST 2 or server related, I am not sure. - - 3) I personally would like to see YAST 2 integrate apt-rpm package manager - or - something like it. On Saturday 18 May 2002 12:44, Togan Muftuoglu wrote: - regardless of the interface in my opinion SuSE package maintainers - either merge the change log in to the RPM or the Quality control - department understands that if there is a new RPM with a bigger version - or the new so called patched RPM they incorporate a change log so people - like me who issue a rpm -q --changelog package will be able to see the - changes. On Saturday 18 May 2002 12:58, Alexander Klayman wrote: - I just want to add that I am very impressed with Yast2 in suse8. I think - suse - has done a great job as this is the most stable and useful - application I know - of in linux. So, if criticism is gonna surface, let's - make sure we give - credit where it is due. On Saturday 18 May 2002 16:22, Jon Clausen wrote: - There is one thing though: - The 'slide show'... For the most part, stuff - like that is perhaps 'mildly - interesting' once or twice, but beyond that - I personally prefer to see - package information. So it kind of bugs me - that I have to press 'details' - every time I do some package install... - - What I'm getting at is, that I would *really* like some configuration - options - for Yast2 itself. Not so much configuration of *how* it works, but - rather - options for what it *tells* me, about how it works... - - On the order of: - - 'Slideshow' vs. 'Details' (during package install) - Level of verbosity in package dependency check - Stuff like that... - - On a conceptual level it might sound something to the effect of: - - "I don't agree that using 'helper' tools should automatically forfeit your - right to know what's going on. I realize that getting tons of 'package - this.rpm depends on/conflicts with that.rpm', might be trivial for the more - advanced users (as well as confusing to total newbies)... but OTOH - information like that might help up-and-coming people understand what's - going - on... (I know I learned a lot from simply looking at the dependency - list in - Yast, back in 6.x) - What I mean is that I see a tendency towards widening the gap between the - command line and Yast2, where I would like to see a closing of said gap - instead..." - - Knowing that Yast2 oftentimes calls upon lower-level utilities like rpm, - which for the most part offer you -v options on the command line, to do the - actual operations, it would seem at least possible to have those options - available in Yast2, too... - - In short: - I would really, really like to see a 'preferences' module for Yast2... ;) On Saturday 18 May 2002 20:40, Fábio Rabelo wrote: - add a module to alow use Yast2 in remote conections VIA BROWSER, like - webmin, this can easy our jobs im remote manangement, and large networks ! On Sunday 19 May 2002 05:03, Richard Bos wrote: - On zaterdag 18 mei 2002 06:37, Brian Durant wrote: - > 3) I personally would like to see YAST 2 integrate apt-rpm package - manager - > or something like it. - - I second this one (of course ;) - - There is already a nice graphical interface available (synaptic; refer to - http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm). This one is based on windowmaker and not - QT - :( On Sunday 19 May 2002 12:20, Richard Bos wrote: - [let me resent the msg, it was too badly phrased (too early in the morning - I - guess)] - - On zondag 19 mei 2002 02:04, Jon wrote: - > Yeah, Connectiva uses Synaptic. You always can wirte a Yast2 module and - > submit it to SuSE :~o - - I've been told that developement for a synaptic like application, but this - time with an kde interface has just (I mean just) been started! - Some months patience and we've an kde synaptic :)) - - Still no YaST module, but that that needs to come from SuSE }~). On Sunday 19 May 2002 07:21, Marcel Broekman wrote: - Op zondag 19 mei 2002 00:03, schreef Richard Bos: - > On zaterdag 18 mei 2002 06:37, Brian Durant wrote: - > > 3) I personally would like to see YAST 2 integrate apt-rpm package - > > manager or something like it. - > - > I second this one (of course ;) - - so do i: apt-rpm integrated in YAST2 would be great! On behalf of the individuals that have commented so far on this tread, we hope that our suggestions are seen as a reflection of our passion for SuSE and our wish for this distribution to continue to attract new users and remain a success in the future. Sincerely, Brian Durant Royal Danish Embassy-Jakarta