On Thursday 18 April 2002 03:52, Peter Lewis wrote: - Back to a clean slate. - - You have complete tcp/ip function out of any box to the internet or to the - router or to the SuSE machine. The win98 machines are blocking any tcp/ip - incoming but your problem is that the win2k software can gain access. - Did I post something that inadvertently gave you this impression? I hope not. I think this is probably because this thread has been dragging on sooo long ;-) The situation is that all of the boxes, Win 98 and WIn 2k/SUSE dual boot box are all on a LAN. My problem has been trying to find/mount the Win 98 boxes with SuSE. If I am to describe my problem in one sentence, it is that don't understand why I can't find/mount the Win 98 boxes in SuSE, when I can if I boot into Win 2k Pro. - - Maybe this is because it is not using tcp/ip to gain access. Do you have - netbui protocol stack on all the win boxes? - I am not sure this is relevant right now. Let's see the response to the rest of the mail, before I answer this. - - If you do then it is the firewall that is stopping any "first time" access - to - your win98 boxes. It is probably set up to allow some of the streaming - media - packages to establish a connection, but they (Norton) quite - correctly assumed - that mechanisms like ping and SMB over tcp/ip would not - be required by 99% of - the users. This leaves you in the position of the - minority, not comfortable. - The options are twofold, either you conform to - the majority and behave - yourself as they would like you to, or you put up - with a less than optimal - setup for the sake of being an individual. - The other responses I have received on this issue clearly point to this being a firewall issue. - - Are you sheep or tiger? - To mix metaphors, I grabbed the bull by the horns, rather than just disabling the firewalls didnt I? No friggin firewall is going to tell me what to do ;-) - - Before I get abuse from the sheep-lovers of this world, there is nothing - wrong with being a sheep, sheep have a major part to play in this world. - Without sheep we would not have Lancashire hot-pot or even lamb chops. We - would all be wearing these so-called "fleece" jackets/gillets etc. - - Getting back to the serious matter, does your router permit incoming - connecttions to be routed to boxes on your local net? The point is that your - local net may not be reachable from the internet without your explicit - intervention. I use a Cisco box to handle my internet connection and without - my setting up a route, any attempt to open a port from the internet is - blocked. The Cisco box permits me to set up a tunnel for port connections - from the internet to a specified host on my local network. - This is where I think we misunderstand each other. I am not trying to VPN or "tunnel" or anything like that. all boxes are connected physically to Ethernet cable and all reside in my house. - - If you are behind a address translation firewall it _should_ be impossible - for crackers on the internet to gain access to hosts on your local network. - If this is the case then your Norton firewalls are rather redundant. - Others have expressed this opinion as well. This may be what I need to do, if nothing else, to lighten the load of all the good people on the list ;-) The reality is that my family doesn't know that much about computers. They rely on the anti-virus software to scan 100% of the time for them. We all know this isn't the case. As I don't have time to do it everyday for them, I decided that the firewalls would help by at least preventing the virus etc. crap from getting passed through the LAN. This has as we see, had unfortunate side effects. I won't beat this topic to death however. If there isn't anyone that has a solution for SuSE passing through the firewalls using smbclient, I will disable the firewalls and concentrate on the problems I have when the firewall is disabled, i.e.: "I was successful in getting LinNeighborhood to display the computers (with the firewalls disabled) after a "modprobe smbfs". However, when I tried to mount one at /home/usr/mnt/<host>, I received the following error, despite having installed all of the smbclient package: "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (500,500) smbmnt failed: 1"" Cheers, Brian