On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:04:37AM -0600, JW wrote: -> To install something as large as KDE you would go read KDE docs - it -> should not be expected of SuSE to take time writing documentation on -> something they are only packaging and is experimental at that. They do it with other stuff like mozilla and the kernels. -> The very fact that it's experimental means it's only for Power users who -> don't need the docs -- if you don't even know how to install it you -> shouldn't be installing it. Listen, Mister Power User. I have been running Linux since 0.9.something. I've compiled the whole thing from scratch. I've compiled and installed KDE many times from source. I earn my living doing third level backline tech support at a large commercial UNIX vendor. You're jumping to some pretty far-fetched conclusions here. In all my years of UNIX experience, one thing I've learned is that if I have a system that is functioning perfectly, don't install undocumented unknown stuff that might fuck it up beyond usability. So get off your sanctimonious high horse. I was pointing out the lack of documentation not so much because *I* need it, but because KDE3 needs people to thrash it out before release, and the total lack of even a simple README file will keep a lot of people from installing it and testing it, and that will be to the detriment of KDE3's stability upon release. Oh, and one other thing: "Bite Me". Michael -- "# chmod a+x /bin/laden" Michael Nelson San Francisco, CA