Well there is nothing surprising in your email. If I switched today to lets say MacOS 9 I'd be looking pretty helpless myself. I don't get how people expect to immediately use something new to them. You have come upon some of the flaws of Linux (or software in general). Not everything works. Ok multimedia pretty much sucks. Some of the apps are still quite buggy. No big deal for me. You use what you need and here is where you failed. 1. You need to set yourself a goal. 2. You need to plan how to achieve this goal. 3. You need to execute the plan. You went on rambling within the Linux system installing this and that and once hitting upon a problem tried using some how-tos and manuals which you most likely were unfamiliar with. You then gave up. I don't blame you but if you proceed along the three points above you are much more successful. Plus why haven't you consulted this list when you came upon a problem??? You cannot solve all problems by yourself. Use the resources to your avail. So next time set yourself a goal and make it a reasonable one. You cannot possibly run successful db2, mysql, sendmail, postfix, apache, mailman, livejournal, dns, dhcp, nfs, nis, smb all simultaneously within ten seconds on the same machine. It takes time to configure and learn. Most people spend half their weekends for years to learn this stuff in their free time. If you ask me you should start with something simple like converting your webservers or your print servers and then make greater leaps after you have some trust what you can and cannot get done with Linux. mk
From: "Briggs, N. - Neil -"
To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Linux newbie thoughts .... Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:20:53 +0200 Dear List members
I just thought that I would post some of my thoughts after struggling with Linux for the last couple of months. The reason for giving linux a go came as a request from my manager as we thought it would be ideal for some of our computing requirements, cost I believe was the major issue here.
So SUSE 7.1 professional was purchased and installed on a HP vectra machine. Installation was straight forward and connection to the network a zip. Well straight forward, hmmm, the sound card is not configured, a generic driver was automatically selected for the video card. I tried install the correct driver for the g450 card. The driver didn't work. So I cannot use the full functionality if the card:-(.
The first thing I tried was surfing the webb using Konquerer. What a pain. Some sites caused the browser to crash (aarrgghh!!), playing movies and streaming sound have proved too difficult to achieve. Installed real player 8 (couldn't get it to work). So I have found linux not very multi media friendly.
I then started to use the Netscape browser instead. Arrgghhh !!!! some webb sites the text is displayed so small you cant read the information. I have tried increasing the font size but to no avail. If I click on an image to display it with the browser I get an error saying that without xv it can't be displayed ?????? I have been unable to connect to chat rooms. I would like to use ICQ but have been unable to get it to work.
So not to be deterred I thought I would try and install some work related software. The first thing I tried was to install IBM's DB2 for linux. I followed the installation process exaclty. Guess what it didn't work. No DB2 very bad.
We do alot of REXX programming here so I thought I would install REXX from the ibm site. Even had the help of a Unix body who knows linux well. We performed the install steps. Guess what - we could'nt get it to work. As an alternative I was given oracle on a cd. Ran the program to perform the install. Guess what it didn't work.
Bought a Linux magazine because it contained Sun Forte for Java. I follow the easy install steps as instructed by the magazine. Ran the executable that was supposed to start the program. All that happened was after pressing enter I saw the prompt again. So guess what it didn't work.
Thought I would give linux one last chance. For fun I decide to install Achilles artificial life program. Downloaded the tar ball. Then went the whole hog of installing SDL (failed couldn't locate the header file ???? I could'nt find these either) continued regardless and tried to install the graphic environment from www.mesa3d.org. Performing the install failed because it could'nt locate the GLUT files ???? Gave up ....
I have now given up on linux. Other than the applications supplied with the SUSE cd I have not been able to install anything successfully. Even some apps installed from the cd don't work. I have read so many manuals and how to's that my head spins. Not knowing what the author is referring to half the time.
At work we have decided not to go ahead with linux, we are finding it just too difficult, frustrating and time consuming. Two days spent trying to install DB2 to have it not work is man hours we can't afford to waste. I will continue to learn about linux and increase what little knowledge I have already. I take some comfort from the fact that somebody who is familiar with linux has not been able to help. So perhaps I am not the idiot I was beginning to think I was. I still have it installed on a second partition and use Linux as more of a hobby machine. The real work stuff is done on windows. With time and a little more knowledge I hope to try linux again as with linux you feel that you are actually getting your fingers dirty.
Sorry for such a long winded vent. I know people here think linux is great, but this has not been my experience. I hope I dont get flamed too much for this email.
Kindest regards Neil
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