I posted this to the list yesterday thinking it was an inetd problem but im not sure now. I'm having trouble telneting an ftping into my suse 7.0 box from the lan side of the network it does not seem to let me connect. If I connect from the internet side it lets me in with no trouble, then I can try to telnet/ftp into box from the lan side an it will let me in but only after making a connection from internet 1st. I have this duplicated on two different suse boxes, one at work running suse 7.0 2.2.16 an at home running 2.4.2 kernels. Is there anyone else having this trouble or know what could be the cause of it. thanks in advance. its just odd to me that it seems to work like this. jack jack malone Network Administrator EAST TEXAS LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND dba HORIZON INDUSTRIES 903-595-3444 http://www.horizonind.com