Ben, I think you and I have been through this before, and you still fall back on that "free beer" crutch. If people would read WHAT I WROTE, there is little room for mis-understanding. But in the interest of fair argument, I will repeat myself (again). I was able to recommend SuSE to customers by showing them an install ON THEIR ACTUAL hardware, which, more often than not, is not standard (aka the live eval DONT WORK). Now that SuSE is not going to offer the eval, I cannot do as such without it coming out of MY OWN POCKET (I re-iterate, these are not my systems, but potential customers). I really wish people (you Ben) would understand that not all people use the eval versions are just looking for FREE BEER. Do we all understand now? I do not have the luxury of IBM's deep pockets. My bottom line comes real close to my billfold. Or does everyone (you Ben) work for someone else? I happen to be a freelance consultant, which means, I have to finance EVERYTHING MYSELF. Why would I buy a piece of software that wont work for a customer? That means I take it as a loss MYSELF (my family, my kid, you get the picture?). Now, drop the "free beer" thing, its old. Unsaddle the "High Moral Horse" that you seem to be riding and join the rest of us in the trenches. When was the last time you bought a car without driving it YOURSELF? Using the live-eval (IN MY SITUATION) is like having someone test drive a car for me by proxy. Dont make much sense, do it? Chris Kulish -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rosenberg [mailto:ben@whack.org] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 8:09 PM To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: [SLE] Free Beer vs. Free Speech [was] 7.1 ISO Mads, The answer to the reason the live eval won't work is because people can't feed off the free beer mentality...It sounds like to me it goes like this... " I can't get it for free, so I will pay M$ $129.00 for Windows because I am too cheap to pay $30 for the personal edition of SuSE" It's sad really..I wish the free beer people would dry up and blow away...hell, I spend more the $30 a week on cigarette ($5.00 a pack in California)...$30.00 for a whole OS and the ability to download 1000's of packages doesn't really strike me as too much to ask so that people who work hard can feed their families. *shrug* Regards, -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- If two men agree on everything, you can be sure that only one of them is doing the thinking. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com