Jerry,
The more I read your posts, Tim, the more I'm beginning to believe that you are an M$ troll, or cursed with an extremely short of memory.
Neither, thank-you very much. I am an active open source programmer, and Linux user - not a Microsoft troll.
For the umpteenth time (are you paying attention?): Compare what you get for $90 from M$ to what your get for $70 from SuSE. Or stated another way: HOW MUCH WOULD YOU HAVE TO PAY TO BILL GATES TO GET WHAT COMES IN A SUSE BOX?
True. But my main point is about the fact that SuSE doesn't even develop - say 80-95% of the stuff included. This is obviously something I don't think I'm going to convince you on, nor will you convince me. Let's just agree to disagree on this too, eh?
Want to setup a 5 client server? Sorry that's an extra $600 for Bill. No extra charge with SuSE. 25 Clients? $,2400 more to Bill, please. SuSE? nada. 300 clients? Bill requires over $25,000 but I'm sure he'll cut you a small deal. This is to say nothing of the other software and hardware that you will have to 'upgrade' when ever Bill decides to tweek a format or extend a protocol. Changed your hardware or had a crash and reinstalled Win2K and tried to install Win2K for the 3rd time? Bill thinks your a pirate and you have to buy another copy of Win2K.
Not true. I'm pretty sure this is the case on WinME, but Win2k doesn't need to get permission to run from a MS server. I've already installed it 4 or 5 times while I tried to tweak my partition scheme to make Win2k and Linux happy.
Now, Tim, what part of this picture don't you understand that requres us to repeat it to you over and over?
I might mention once more, most of this isn't SuSE's doing - any more than it is RedHat's or Caldera's doing. It is the community's doing. And, as I've said over and over - I simply want SuSE to offer a version without support and manuals. If we say that 3 manuals and 30 days support costs $20 (i.e. the price difference between the Upgrade with 3 manuals and 30 days support and the Pro with 6 manuals and 60 days support), than if you get rid of ALL the manuals, you should be able to reduce the price by $30-$40 (i.e. $30-$40 as the MSRP) and still turn a profit.
If your small company is uninetsoulutions.com, then how come you're running your web site on a Linux OS? Is your web site "partly a hobby"?
No it is not "partly a hobby." I wouldn't every have a server that didn't run Linux or BSD (my last host used FreeBSD). I like running on open source software. However, the copy of Linux on my hard disk on my desktop IS partly a hobby.
Your concern about Linux purity is interesting. Why does your site specialize in selling PROPRIATARY software for the NT (and Win2000) OS? Why is your server running a mod_frontpage service? Why do you use Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) for your email package?
Doing a little investigation, eh? Let me answer each good question with a good answer: 1.) I don't specialize in selling NT software, although I do make a commission if and when a copy is sold. The reason I offer IPSwitch's server stuff, is because I wanted to offer WS_FTP (a good way to upload files on Windows), and it all came in one package (so why not offer it?). 2.) I don't use frontpage, the hosting company simply includes it. To be honest, I despise WYSIWYG HTML editors with a passion. I hand code each line of my site carfully from within a text editor (UltraEdit32). 3.) Because I'm waiting for Magellan to come out, and my Linux setup is fried from a wee bit too much partition tweeking. BTW, I have nothing against proprietary software, simply if it comes from a company that makes it's money from open source. Good answers? -Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm Christian Web Services Since 1996 tbutler@uninetsolutions.com http://www.uninetsolutions.com ============== "Information Powered by Innovation" ============== "If the atheists are right, I'll never know, but if I'm right, they will definitely know!"